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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Connor Cook in the 1st round would be a bigger waste of a first rounder than Sullivan or Erxleben, wasn't expressed with him at all this season or during their *** kicking by Alabama...

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Old 01-19-2016, 06:20 PM   #171
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Connor Cook in the 1st round would be a bigger waste of a first rounder than Sullivan or Erxleben, wasn't expressed with him at all this season or during their *** kicking by Alabama
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Old 01-20-2016, 05:49 AM   #172
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Originally Posted by K Major View Post
The physical tools are there no doubt but has become invisible in the two GA games I saw.

JP & Hagan, what did I miss on this prospect?
I saw the same thing. playing to his level of comp or just doing enough to get by? injury? I went into the season high on the kid too. gotta do some more digging on the kid. right now i question desire
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Old 01-20-2016, 06:07 AM   #173
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Connor Cook in the 1st round would be a bigger waste of a first rounder than Sullivan or Erxleben, wasn't expressed with him at all this season or during their *** kicking by Alabama
I agree to an extent but I am holding out on shoulder injury which is my number one concern. When you look at his game the kid has guts. maybe too much. he trust his WR which for the number of dropped passes is rather remarkable in itself.

Love the small things in his game that puts him light years ahead of ant QB drafted in a long time. Example: Varing his drop back speed no matter if it is a 3,5 or 7 step drop to allow routes to develop is one of the hardest thing for a QB to master. He has so many small things down pat it amazes me. That makes his coaching so much easier. QB take 3 to 5 years to just to get to the point they are doing it naturally. Almost all the basic fundamentals are there. Cook had some excellent coaching through out his career. high school thru college.

I believe sitting and studying behind Drew and the coaching of SP for a few years would be a solid move for him and the saints.

If the saints can trade back and still get the kid and picks I would be happy. If the media is right and he falls into the second I will be amazed and even more ecstatic if the saints grabbed him there.

He and Derek Carr are a lot alike. Except Cook is further long in his development by at least 3 to 5 years.

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Old 01-20-2016, 04:00 PM   #174
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East-West Shrine Game Day 2 observations

» South Carolina State DT Javon Hargrave: He's undersized (6-foot-2, 295 pounds), but a quick and explosive player. He's flashed both days in the pass-rush drills and in the one-on-ones. And even in the team drills, you can see how quick his get-off is.

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EW Shrine day 2- Javon Hargrave- SCAR ST- quick and explosive / bubble butt / 1 gap and go...force me to watch his college tape tonight !

» Boston College safety Justin Simmons: He's not necessarily a highly rated kid but he might be able to play both safety and corner. He's big and strong, and I loved his tape against Notre Dame.

» Illinois safety Clayton Fejedelem: The kid's been all around the ball for two days now. He had 140 tackles this past season so you knew coming in that he was a tough guy. And he is. But it has been nice to see him around the ball, making plays in the passing game.

East-West Shrine Game Day 2 observations - NFL.com

Utah State wide receiver Hunter Sharp moves fast in everything he does. He's quick off the line, accelerates in his routes and shows burst at the top of routes. He needs to be more consistent catching the football, especially over the middle on slants and crossers, but his play speed stood out during drills

Florida Atlantic defensive tackle Trevon Coley has lived in the backfield during practice drills, using quick burst off the ball and a wide range of hand tactics to defeat interior linemen. He is shorter than ideal, but uses that natural leverage and lower body flexibility to dip past the shoulder of blockers, finishing with pop. Along with South Carolina State defensive tackle Javon Hargrave, Coley is a step above the other defensive linemen this week.

On more than one occasion, Michigan linebacker Joe Bolden drew “ooh's and ahh's” from the crowd, shooting gaps and blowing up the ballcarrier before he could hit the hole. He's very average from a size/speed standpoint, but Bolden is a ball magnet and doesn't play with hesitation, which is being noticed by the dozens of NFL scouts in attendance.

On day two of his transition to running back, Navy's Keenan Reynolds continued to impress catching the ball out of the backfield with quick, reliable hands. He also practiced as a punt returner.

2016 Shrine Game: Navy's Keenan Reynolds looks natural at RB - CBSSports.com


» Miami safety Deon Bush: Bush is a bigger safety than Byrd at 6-1, 205. He did a nice job today covering tight ends in one-on-one drills, and he should.

» Illinois RB Josh Ferguson: He is really quick. If you watch his change of direction, he really pops. I'm eager to go watch tape on him after seeing him here. I really liked watching him. He's kind of a third-down change-of-pace guy who needs to catch the football, and he does it effortlessly.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...3-observations

keep an eye on

Justin Simmons BC FS/SS 6024 201 4.59
Every year I try to keep a player as a surprise and .. well I guess I need to find another. Simmons was a solid enforcer for the golden eagles. good football IQ and a leader of one of the better defenses in 2015. Here is a player that could turn out to be a shocker when all said and done. He is your typical BC player. No none sense lunch pail toting fundamentally sound player. Do not buy into the CB position right now he is a long way away from being ready to play there right now. But as a safety he has all the skill sets one is looking for. vastly under rated.

Rotoworld's Josh Norris and CBS Sports' Dane Brugler both think. Brugler specifically says Simmons's best position in the NFL is free safety, calling the Eagles' star "fast and decisive in all directions, closing with purpose in coverage and as a run defender."

Here is were I go against the media, I think he fits the mold of a modern day SS in the pass happy NFL. As a safety with a solid combine he could go mid-second day and be a draft day shocker, maybe Day 3 at this point in time and I believe he would have to have a really bad showing all together to go as a UDFA. If he did he would be on speed dial 1. The kid is clean and i will go as far as saying resign FA safeties would be a mute issue

Key catch phrases
tackling machine, takes great angles, deep cover safety with good range, ball skills, and smarts on the back end. Typical BC kid: smart and disciplined vastly under rated

Josh Ferguson Illi 5094 195 4.47
Big 10 best kept ankle breaker secret of 2015. His running style reminds me of Darren Sproles,
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Old 01-20-2016, 04:07 PM   #175
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Now for my fav and it looks like I am getting more band wagon jumpers than i like.

Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass 6025 200 4.48

Rotoworld's Josh Norris pegged him as the No. 2 prospect to keep an eye on heading into the week.

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WR Tajae Sharpe (Umass) ran precise routes and showed good hands. Best WR on the East team hands down.

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Tajae Sharpe/WR/UMASS has been unstoppable and has caught everything.

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East DBs on sidelines talking about UMass WR Tajae Sharpe and his "smooth feet" and "boy got some hands"

Tajae Sharpe and Blake Frohnapfel at the Shrine Game: What they're saying about UMass' NFL prospects | masslive.com

Mike Mayock UMass WR Tajae Sharpe: He's a lean kid; they list him at 6-3, 188. I like him on tape. He catches the ball well, and has flashed in each of the three practice this week.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...3-observations

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» Boston College safety Justin Simmons: He's not necessarily a highly rated kid but he might be able to play both safety and corner. He's big and strong, and I loved his tape against Notre Dame.

On more than one occasion, Michigan linebacker Joe Bolden drew “ooh's and ahh's” from the crowd, shooting gaps and blowing up the ballcarrier before he could hit the hole. He's very average from a size/speed standpoint, but Bolden is a ball magnet and doesn't play with hesitation, which is being noticed by the dozens of NFL scouts in attendance.

keep an eye on

Justin Simmons BC FS/SS 6024 201 4.59
Every year I try to keep a player as a surprise and .. well I guess I need to find another. Simmons was a solid enforcer for the golden eagles. good football IQ and a leader of one of the better defenses in 2015. Here is a player that could turn out to be a shocker when all said and done. He is your typical BC player. No none sense lunch pail toting fundamentally sound player. Do not buy into the CB position right now he is a long way away from being ready to play there right now. But as a safety he has all the skill sets one is looking for. vastly under rated.

Rotoworld's Josh Norris and CBS Sports' Dane Brugler both think. Brugler specifically says Simmons's best position in the NFL is free safety, calling the Eagles' star "fast and decisive in all directions, closing with purpose in coverage and as a run defender."

Here is were I go against the media, I think he fits the mold of a modern day SS in the pass happy NFL. As a safety with a solid combine he could go mid-second day and be a draft day shocker, maybe Day 3 at this point in time and I believe he would have to have a really bad showing all together to go as a UDFA. If he did he would be on speed dial 1. The kid is clean and i will go as far as saying resign FA safeties would be a mute issue

Key catch phrases
tackling machine, takes great angles, deep cover safety with good range, ball skills, and smarts on the back end. Typical BC kid: smart and disciplined vastly under rated
Bolden and Simmons sound good. A good SS could definatly boost the backfield, I'm not a Vaccarro fan.

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Old 01-21-2016, 08:07 AM   #177
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Joe Bolden ILB Michigan 6031 232 4.82

He aint much to look at but his game is all about attitude and IQ. He is a huge reason the Michigan defense was so good. he owns the middle and takes it personal if you dare to venture there. hesitation is not a thing he excels at. Want a LB that reads and react shots the gap and blows up plays? he is your guy. want some one that has some coverage skills? look else where. not that he can not cover but his range is limited. he is a two down thumper. He could be a beast on special teams that would be excellent depth and bring a nastiness to the defense we seem to be missing.

This is the type of kid that you never really sure of till he gets on the field and he may surprise the world. He reminds me of the kid from Wisconsin a few years back that left the nfl because of concussions and he played for the 49ers. forgot his name.

he plays football old school style. smart with a nasty attitude. snot bubble maker for sure
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Old 01-21-2016, 08:24 AM   #178
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2016 Shrine Game: Official Weigh-In Measurements

Posted by Eric Galko on Jan 20, 2016 07:56
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Below are the 2016 Shrine Game Height, Weight, Hand Size, Arm Length and Wingspan Measurements.

Notes:
QB Hand Size (9.5 is a good threshold)
Stave-10 5/8; Frohnapfel-10 5/8; Rudock-9 3/4 Sudfeld-9 5/8; Doughty-9 1/4; Adams-8 3/4

WRs with Sub 9.5 in hands: (9 or 9.5 is a good threshold, depending on team tolerance)
T. Sharpe (7 3/4) R.Anderson (8 3/8) R. Scott (9 1/4) Allison (9), Anthrax (9)

Longest Wingspans:
OTs Fallin (83 3/4), Shell (83 5/8), Lumpkin (83.5), Cooper (83 1/4) and DE Okwara (83 3/4)


2016 Shrine Game Weigh In Measurements

Dam T. Sharpe (7 3/4) first real negative about this kid. we be talking tiny winnie hands here. this could effect his draft stock so he needs to be almost flawless from here on out. the kid can catch though

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right now CBS.com has him as a 7th rounder but he battled an ankle injury all 2015 season

FSU's Smith hoping to have dynamic performance in East-West Shrine Game

“I played MIKE, SAM and WILL during my time at Florida State so whatever a team wants me to play I plan on doing,” Smith said.

The 6-foot-3, 219 pound defender has looked solid in practice this week, drawing rave reviews for his coverage ability. While he likely needs to bulk up to play at the next level, his instincts and understanding of the game have been molded by the coaching staff at Florida State. As a senior, Smith focused on improving elements of his game that rarely came into focus in prior years.

“Just kind of play more downhill, in the box," said Smith, regarding his goals as a senior. "I do a lot of coverage stuff and that kind of was my first nature, so it [was] just about training myself to come downhill and playing more aggressively against the run."
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