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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by ChrisXVI https://twitter.com/rand_getlin/stat...16389230125056 He's way more pass-catcher than blocker... Maybe a move to WR in our system? 6' 2" 230 lbs. Stephen Anderson is one of those old school swiss army knives tweener that a coach can mold. ...

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Old 04-03-2016, 10:43 AM   #1
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI View Post
https://twitter.com/rand_getlin/stat...16389230125056

He's way more pass-catcher than blocker... Maybe a move to WR in our system? 6' 2" 230 lbs.
Stephen Anderson is one of those old school swiss army knives tweener that a coach can mold. He was not asked to do much in the way of blocking at Cal. They run a some what spread style of offense.

He also is one of them walkons to NFL stories fans get behind. It shows desire and determination.
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Before we rush off and rid ourselves of Kenny Vaccaro, consider, Malcolm Jenkins was let go - and has flourished in Philadelphia...

Was Jenkins or the coaching the problem?!?

With regards to Browner, it was clearly a bad signing and that became evident to the Saints brain trust they'd screwed up...

So with regards to Kenny V, there are a number of questions - should he be a Free Safety? A Slot Cornerback? Is he in the right scheme?

Besides, rather add the option year, friendlier cap number, and give us another free agency period and draft to find a replacement...

We definitely have more than just safety to address with regards to personnel on this team...

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Before we rush off and rid ourselves of Kenny Vaccaro, consider, Malcolm Jenkins was let go - and has flourished in Philadelphia...

Was Jenkins or the coaching the problem?!?
Maybe ... Saints defensive coaching hadn't exactly put players in a position to succeed. We now have J Byrd, even apart from injuries highly graded in Buffalo yet in New Orleans ... INVISIBLE.

As with Jenkins, he was simply not very good here. Took bad angles, numerous chances for INT's however the opportunities were there. He didn't get it done in Black and Gold but with focus, re motivated himself and it paid off big time for Philly. Good for Malcolm .

Saw my share of the short horns (UT) & was never overly impressed with KV (preferred Eric Reid) as a top pick at safety. I like the fire but that's about the extent of it. This will be a very crucial season for Kenny. Would like a guy out there making solid hits and is always around the ball .
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Old 04-03-2016, 01:40 PM   #4
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make sure you have a player first and they have proven their worth before you let anyone walk.

Funny Jenkins learning curve seemed to be one year longer than the saints gave him. Ask yourself who let him go and who drafted his replacement?
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The two thing I give Ireland is he does well drafting a complete secondary and puts a decent front line together also. I do question his lb.'ers though.
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A Healthy Karl Joseph Is The Best Safety In This Draft - TPS
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Old 04-04-2016, 01:09 AM   #7
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Keith is a SS with no doubt. reminds me a bit of KV. definitely a better blitzer than KV was coming out of college.

but I am sticking with players pegged to be drafted after him

Sean Davis DB Maryland 6011 201
Hands 9 1/2 Arms 31 3/8 Wing 76
40 4.46
20 2.60
10 1.56
3 Cone 6.64
20 Shuttle 3.97
60 Shuttle 11.53
Bench 21
Vertical 37.5
Broad 126"

Are the Pittsburgh Steelers ready for another hybrid DB from Maryland? - Louisville - Scout

Love this write up because they see what I see. FS with the ability to drop down into coverage when needed. Issue #1 raw. Jumped around the secondary at Maryland. I have and extremely high ceiling on this kid with a solid floor to start working with. 3 years from now he may just shock the NFL. 3rd? I would do it. On the board in the 4th? better have a gift from god dropping in your lap to pass him up. He is right now he is my most over looked prospect in the draft. national media are so wrong basing his draft stock as a CB and last years tape. All last year did was help fine tune his skills to move back to safety.

where is that dead horse to beat.

A late rounder/UDFA to watch for at SS is

Tevin Carter SS Utah 6012 2221 4.52
this kid scopes out the ball carry in a crowd.

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Saints to work out Cal tight end Stephen Anderson on Monday

In Payton's offense ... you never know.
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Where are we going to draft him?

As for Jenkins, how is it that he just put it together after leaving us? Could it be because the saints didn't let him be a captain and Philly had dcoaches that made him better? He's better in Philly because he's the captain.

The thing with Vacarro is we have been beaten over the head by numerous posters on here saying the pass rush is why the secondary can't make plays. Is Vacarro really bad?
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As for Jenkins, how is it that he just put it together after leaving us? Could it be because the saints didn't let him be a captain and Philly had dcoaches that made him better? He's better in Philly because he's the captain.
In an article that was posted here not too long ago - Jenkins stated that after the Saints chose not to re-sign him; he went back and watched his own tapes in order to evaluate his own performances. As I remember it, he noticed many things that he needed to improve and clearly he followed through.

He needed a wake-up call, which the Saints' coaching staff were for some reason unable to provide when he was still with the team.
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