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2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by brees84 Antonio Brown 5'11 Odell Beckham 5'11 Jarvis Landry 5'11 Emmanuel Sanders 5'11 Jeremy Maclin 6'0 Doug Baldwin 5'10 Randall Cobb 5'10 All those players are complete receivers who can do it all. Who can stop Antonio ...

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Old 04-03-2016, 08:48 AM   #661
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Antonio Brown 5'11
Odell Beckham 5'11
Jarvis Landry 5'11
Emmanuel Sanders 5'11
Jeremy Maclin 6'0
Doug Baldwin 5'10
Randall Cobb 5'10


All those players are complete receivers who can do it all. Who can stop Antonio Brown over the middle?
Brown, Beckham - Yes, special players...

Hardly think the rest of that krewe could do it all...

Point of the post regarding over the middle and having a tall receiver, meh...

But I'd agree that we do need a big wide receiver that is at least 6' 2" and with a reliable wing span/catch radius who can 'put a body and box out a cornerback' to convert 3rd downs and red zone scores without an upside-down acrobatic catch is essential for this team to winning games...

Just picture Cooks getting smothered by Panthers Josh Norman last season for the win in Carolina; if we'd had a younger, healthy Colston, Jimmy Graham or Laquon Treadwell can come down with that pass from McCown and change, quite possibly, the entire season...
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Old 04-03-2016, 08:51 AM   #662
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Brown, Beckham - Yes, special players...

Hardly think the rest of that krewe could do it all...

Point of the post regarding over the middle and having a tall receiver, meh...

But I'd agree that we do need a big wide receiver that is at least 6' 2" and with a reliable wing span/catch radius who can 'put a body and box out a cornerback' to convert 3rd downs and red zone scores without an upside-down acrobatic catch is essential for this team to winning games...

Just picture Cooks getting smothered by Panthers Josh Norman last season for the win in Carolina; if we'd had a younger, healthy Colston, Jimmy Graham or Laquon Treadwell can come down with that pass from McCown and change, quite possibly, the entire season...
Agreed on the last part is especially, the 2006 - 2011 Colston would have beasted Josh Norman. Colston used to be unstoppable in jump ball situations early in his career.
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Old 04-03-2016, 10:56 AM   #663
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I thought he'd play weak side LB but then I got to thinking... This is Vacarro's contract year if we don't pick up his 5th year option. If we draft Cravens to play safety we could possibly even trade Vacarro. There's gotta be someone out there who would give up a mid-round pick for him.
I could see the Saints simply letting KV walk after this season.
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He's way more pass-catcher than blocker... Maybe a move to WR in our system? 6' 2" 230 lbs.
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Old 04-03-2016, 11:43 AM   #665
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI View Post
https://twitter.com/rand_getlin/stat...16389230125056

He's way more pass-catcher than blocker... Maybe a move to WR in our system? 6' 2" 230 lbs.
Stephen Anderson is one of those old school swiss army knives tweener that a coach can mold. He was not asked to do much in the way of blocking at Cal. They run a some what spread style of offense.

He also is one of them walkons to NFL stories fans get behind. It shows desire and determination.
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I could see the Saints simply letting KV walk after this season.
really? hmmm no 5th year option?
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Old 04-03-2016, 12:06 PM   #667
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Before we rush off and rid ourselves of Kenny Vaccaro, consider, Malcolm Jenkins was let go - and has flourished in Philadelphia...

Was Jenkins or the coaching the problem?!?

With regards to Browner, it was clearly a bad signing and that became evident to the Saints brain trust they'd screwed up...

So with regards to Kenny V, there are a number of questions - should he be a Free Safety? A Slot Cornerback? Is he in the right scheme?

Besides, rather add the option year, friendlier cap number, and give us another free agency period and draft to find a replacement...

We definitely have more than just safety to address with regards to personnel on this team...

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Before we rush off and rid ourselves of Kenny Vaccaro, consider, Malcolm Jenkins was let go - and has flourished in Philadelphia...

Was Jenkins or the coaching the problem?!?
Maybe ... Saints defensive coaching hadn't exactly put players in a position to succeed. We now have J Byrd, even apart from injuries highly graded in Buffalo yet in New Orleans ... INVISIBLE.

As with Jenkins, he was simply not very good here. Took bad angles, numerous chances for INT's however the opportunities were there. He didn't get it done in Black and Gold but with focus, re motivated himself and it paid off big time for Philly. Good for Malcolm .

Saw my share of the short horns (UT) & was never overly impressed with KV (preferred Eric Reid) as a top pick at safety. I like the fire but that's about the extent of it. This will be a very crucial season for Kenny. Would like a guy out there making solid hits and is always around the ball .
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Old 04-03-2016, 02:40 PM   #669
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make sure you have a player first and they have proven their worth before you let anyone walk.

Funny Jenkins learning curve seemed to be one year longer than the saints gave him. Ask yourself who let him go and who drafted his replacement?
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The two thing I give Ireland is he does well drafting a complete secondary and puts a decent front line together also. I do question his lb.'ers though.
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