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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by brees84 R1P12 OLB MYLES JACK UCLA R2P16 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH R3P15 OLB DEION JONES LSU R4P14 G CONNOR MCGOVERN MISSOURI R5P13 WR CHARONE PEAKE CLEMSON R7P16 S KEANU NEAL FLORIDA Brees, you really think Myles ...

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Old 03-28-2016, 11:43 AM   #1
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Brees, you really think Myles Jack is making it out of the top 10, especially past the Ravens?!?

If we got Vernon Butler in the second round (don't think he's making it at all out of the first round), I'd be in Farmer Fran mode through training camp...

Really like McGovern; looks like a nasty version of Jahri Evans...

Deion Jones seems a little too light and wasn't as fast at his pro day...
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Brees, you really think Myles Jack is making it out of the top 10, especially past the Ravens?!?

If we got Vernon Butler in the second round (don't think he's making it at all out of the first round), I'd be in Farmer Fran mode through training camp...

Really like McGovern; looks like a nasty version of Jahri Evans...

Deion Jones seems a little too light and wasn't as fast at his pro day...
I know this mock is unrealistic. This was CBS database on fanspeak on the clock simulator.


I agree on Jack and Butler. Jack sure is top 10 pick and Butler probably late 1st round selection or early second.
Now I hear that Mayock will put Keanu Neal in top 5 safeties group. lol
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Brees, you really think Myles Jack is making it out of the top 10, especially past the Ravens?!?

If we got Vernon Butler in the second round (don't think he's making it at all out of the first round), I'd be in Farmer Fran mode through training camp...

Deion Jones seems a little too light and wasn't as fast at his pro day...
Myles will be gone before they serve him his first drink in the green room.

I do think Vernon is a day 2 selection, although some scouts project him as a late 1st round selection.

"Debo" Deion actually ran faster at his Pro Day (4.38).
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I'm really starting to think none of the DT's in this draft are top 20 prospects. If the Nick Fairley signing is indeed imminent and doesn't fall through then I don't want want to reach on any DT at 12. There will be way too many available in the second round. Gotta snag an every down DE to pair with Jordan in the first round... Or Treadwell.
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I'm really starting to think none of the DT's in this draft are top 20 prospects. If the Nick Fairley signing is indeed imminent and doesn't fall through then I don't want want to reach on any DT at 12. There will be way too many available in the second round. Gotta snag an every down DE to pair with Jordan in the first round... Or Treadwell.
On a similar note, I'm starting to think that none of the OG's in the draft are immediate starters. The top 3 guards according to Walter Football all struggle with pass protection, and we all know that for Brees, pass protection up the middle is actually more essential than protection from the LT position.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2016OG.php

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well if that's the case, draft a tweener OT and slide him at guard. Worked with Evans and Nicks so I'm fine with trying it again
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well if that's the case, draft a tweener OT and slide him at guard. Worked with Evans and Nicks so I'm fine with trying it again
Yeah both Alexander from LSU and the guy from Kansas played OT in college but are projected as guards in the nfl. I hope we can strike magic again with one of the top 3 prospects.

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well if that's the case, draft a tweener OT and slide him at guard. Worked with Evans and Nicks so I'm fine with trying it again
I really like two in this draft as projects

PHYSICAL SCALE
Le'Raven Clark is a 10
Willie Beavers 7

Pro ready SCALE
Willie Beavers 7
Le'Raven Clark is a 4

R2 - Le'Raven Clark has everything you are looking for in a OT/OG physically. Coming from a spread offense his skill sets screams round 4/5. This kid needs some serious coaching but if you want a something pretty you could not ask for more. Huge Boom-or-Bust in round 2. Looks pretty all dressed up but stripped down there are some issues. Round 4 or better yet 5, sure, but round 2? heck of a gamble. Right now he is a media diva

Le'Raven Clark 6052 316
Hands 11 7/8
Arms 36 1/8
40 5.12
20 2.99
10 1.80
3 Cone
20 Shuttle
Bench 18
Vertical 30
Broad 9' 01"

R5 - Willie Beavers small DIII school player is fundamentally sound needs some coaching and playing time but the skill set is there for a 5th rounder. The issue would arise that he has a solid chance of becoming starting LT in the NFL in a few years. So why he is getting up to speed, OG might be a good place to start. Beavers may have what it takes to be a OT in this league but I see a zone OG with huge up side. Needs coaching but two years down the road he should be ready to go. Pro bowl caliber? maybe just maybe. solid starter I would think so.


Willie Beavers OT/OG 6045 321
Hands 9 1/2
Arms 33 1/2
40 5.28
20 3.02
10 1.81
3 Cone 7.75
20 Shuttle 4.71
Bench 20
Vertical 25 1/2
Broad 8' 07"

If I were to go developmental OL at the end of day 2 or at the beginning of day 3 I can live with the gamble.

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if we want to get back to the promise land we have to go o-line o-line, that's what got us there and will get us there again, we need to protect brees for a few more years.
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if we want to get back to the promise land we have to go o-line o-line, that's what got us there and will get us there again, we need to protect brees for a few more years.
The five best offensive linemen we've drafted during the Payton era were drafted in the fourth round (Jahri Evans), seventh round (Zach Strief), fourth round (Jermon Bushrod), fifth round (Carl Nicks), fourth round (Jermon Bushrod) and third round (Terron Armstead); and only Armstead was a Top 75 pick - in fact, he was the 75th pick of the draft...

Charles Brown (round 2), Andy Alleman (round 3) were second day picks...

We need to draft the best available player when it's our selection irregardless of Brees and his window...
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