2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

blackangold · 01-07-2016, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

No. 012 (R1, 12) DE DeForest Buckner, Oregon; Height: 6' 7"; Weight: 290 lbs.

sell me on him .
First round talent sure but top 15?
huge gamble on upside?

I just did not see it on the field on a consistent level because IMO he is a media hype darling

He is a play maker, not just the upside. From what I read he has a good motor and doesn't give up on plays, which typically guys his size do. Is he top 15? Maybe, I wouldn't be disappointed with the pick.

hagan714 · 01-08-2016, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

He is a play maker, not just the upside. From what I read he has a good motor and doesn't give up on plays, which typically guys his size do. Is he top 15? Maybe, I wouldn't be disappointed with the pick.

I know he can make the highlight reels but I have seen games were he disappears all together. I worry about his football IQ. He appears to be a bit slow in read react ability IMO. One thing to be overally aggressive and over run play. It is another to just show up late on a regular clip. Maybe more playing time and coaching can change it. If it does he will be a beast. But in the first round, this high I would pause. At this point in the draft IMO that is a huge flaw in his game. The draft interview would make or break this kid for me.

There is always a concern I have DL and OL players that play against mostly spread offenses in college. They all need more coaching to understand the differences in the pro game. So maybe I am more skeptical and critical with these players

blackangold · 01-08-2016, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I worry about his football IQ.

That is the key for me.

We have seen physical talent like his before, but if he can't play the game intelligently it won't matter.

hagan714 · 01-09-2016, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

That is the key for me.

We have seen physical talent like his before, but if he can't play the game intelligently it won't matter.

Do not get me wrong i would not scratch him off the board but I would research the heck out of the kid.

Two other high rated players i would really dig deep into are
Emmanuel Ogbah
Andrew Billings

01-07-2016, 06:23 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by hagan714 No. 012 (R1, 12) DE DeForest Buckner, Oregon; Height: 6' 7"; Weight: 290 lbs. sell me on him . First round talent sure but top 15? huge gamble on upside? I just did not see it on the field on a consistent level because IMO he is a media hype darling He is a play maker, not just the upside. From what I read he has a good motor and doesn't give up on plays, which typically guys his size do. Is he top 15? Maybe, I wouldn't be disappointed with the pick. hagan714 likes this.

01-08-2016, 09:57 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by blackangold He is a play maker, not just the upside. From what I read he has a good motor and doesn't give up on plays, which typically guys his size do. Is he top 15? Maybe, I wouldn't be disappointed with the pick. I know he can make the highlight reels but I have seen games were he disappears all together. I worry about his football IQ. He appears to be a bit slow in read react ability IMO. One thing to be overally aggressive and over run play. It is another to just show up late on a regular clip. Maybe more playing time and coaching can change it. If it does he will be a beast. But in the first round, this high I would pause. At this point in the draft IMO that is a huge flaw in his game. The draft interview would make or break this kid for me. There is always a concern I have DL and OL players that play against mostly spread offenses in college. They all need more coaching to understand the differences in the pro game. So maybe I am more skeptical and critical with these players
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01-08-2016, 10:30 AM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by hagan714 I worry about his football IQ. That is the key for me. We have seen physical talent like his before, but if he can't play the game intelligently it won't matter. hagan714 likes this.

01-09-2016, 09:08 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by blackangold That is the key for me. We have seen physical talent like his before, but if he can't play the game intelligently it won't matter. Do not get me wrong i would not scratch him off the board but I would research the heck out of the kid. Two other high rated players i would really dig deep into are Emmanuel Ogbah Andrew Billings

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