Register All Albums FAQ Community Experience
Go Back   New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com > Main > Saints
View Poll Results: Trade Down
Philadelphia Eagles R1-13 and R4-110 1 2.86%
La Rams R1-15 and R3-76 6 17.14%
Houston Texans R1-22, R2-52, R4-116 10 28.57%
Recievng end of a Ditka for Drew 2 5.71%
Stay put at 12 16 45.71%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

Trade Down at 12?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major Some analyst have JS dropping out of the 2nd rd, possibly early 3rd (similar to RB Marcus Lattimore). Frankly I can't see it but if he can heal back to 100%, he is going to ...

Like Tree39Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-03-2016, 06:40 PM   #41
100th Post
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 365
Re: Trade Down at 12?

Originally Posted by K Major View Post
Some analyst have JS dropping out of the 2nd rd, possibly early 3rd (similar to RB Marcus Lattimore).

Frankly I can't see it but if he can heal back to 100%, he is going to improve someones defense, quick, fast and in a hurry.
If he drops out of the First Round the by all means take a chance on him. But if he's there at #12, then you have to pass.
MarchingOn likes this.
WhoDatFan26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2016, 07:38 PM   #42
Truth Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R)
Posts: 24,723
Re: Trade Down at 12?

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 View Post
If he drops out of the First Round the by all means take a chance on him. But if he's there at #12, then you have to pass.
Normally I agree. But we're in a 2 or 3 year window with Brees so I have no problem passing on a project for a more NFL ready prospect.

I'm all about drafting for 2 or 3 years down the road, but the whole nerve damage thing is inordinately risky. If we had some extra picks, and were already stocked with talent on defense then sure, I'd crawl over broken glass to pick him n the 2nd.

I just don't think its wise with our current situation. We have a lot of young players on defense that may develop very nicely. Do you give up on them to draft a risky feast or famine player?
jeanpierre likes this.
Danno is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2016, 08:01 PM   #43
Site Donor 2018
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Thibodaux
Posts: 43,543
Blog Entries: 39
Re: Trade Down at 12?

Rookie Draft Picks...

First round picks should be starters as rookies coming out of training camp...

Second round picks should be starters by mid season or key rotational players...

Third round picks should be playing strong minutes in relief and able to make spot starts by the end of their rookie seasons...

Fourth and Fifth round picks should be providing quality depth and have at least some kind of impact by the end of their rookie seasons...

Sixth and Seventh round picks are your developmental, special teams and medical redshirts...

Exception: Quarterbacks (First Rounders should be starting by midseason)

Look, we developed enough talent for other kids during the Mora years, let the other kids develop the talent...

We should be reloaders, not rebuilders...
Rugby Saint II likes this.

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...
jeanpierre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2016, 03:52 PM   #44
Site Donor 2019
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Bedford, TX
Posts: 24,622
Blog Entries: 3
Re: Trade Down at 12?

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Rookie Draft Picks...

First round picks should be starters as rookies coming out of training camp...


We should be reloaders, not rebuilders...
JP - valid points but if our 1st rd pick is missing 6, 7 games makes or breaks us, then we are already in trouble. Yes we need our 1st rd pick to make an impact but even great players don't have huge impacts to change a teams season. If we ever expect our defense to become great, it will help big time getting a top rated player fall to us at 12.
hagan714 likes this.
K Major is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2016, 06:05 PM   #45
LB Mentallity
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 15,870
Blog Entries: 68
Re: Trade Down at 12?

First thru fourth round picks must see the field and have an impact from day one. starter or not he must have an impact. If things go well 1 maybe 2 have starter written on them by the end of year one. The other 2 or 3 must be depth upgrades and rotational players pushing for playing time. busts in the first 4 rounds are killers

If the rest can give you an improvement of depth with promise or even that rare diamond in the rough even better. Showing solid skills worth developing.
hagan714 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2016, 10:14 PM   #46
Site Donor 2018
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: lafayette
Posts: 7,753
Re: Trade Down at 12?

there's no luke klukey in the draft, so i'm out on a backer in first.
hagan714 likes this.
st thomas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2016, 05:02 AM   #47
LB Mentallity
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 15,870
Blog Entries: 68
Re: Trade Down at 12?

Well it appears the eagles are moving up in the draft and swapping with miami. So that is a huge blow to obvious trade possibilities involving QBs

Byron Maxwell, Kiko Alonso to be traded to Dolphins - NFL.com

Then add philli move trading Murry to Tenn
Titans to acquire RB DeMarco Murray from Eagles - NFL.com

The eagles should be pick heavy. It will be interesting to see how these moves all shake out.
hagan714 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2016, 07:48 PM   #48
Truth Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R)
Posts: 24,723
Re: Trade Down at 12?

Upon further review, maybe we will.
While it's true we haven't traded down for more picks in a decade, this will be the first draft Jeff Ireland has had with a full year of evaluation and scouting. Since he's now the top draft guy on the staff, I think we can throw history out.
hagan714 and halloween 65 like this.
Danno is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2016, 08:26 PM   #49
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana
Posts: 5,893
Re: Trade Down at 12?

Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Upon further review, maybe we will.
While it's true we haven't traded down for more picks in a decade, this will be the first draft Jeff Ireland has had with a full year of evaluation and scouting. Since he's now the top draft guy on the staff, I think we can throw history out.
Yes!! Sometimes (sometimes) I would actually draft for need.
halloween 65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2016, 09:39 PM   #50
Site Donor 2019
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Bedford, TX
Posts: 24,622
Blog Entries: 3
Re: Trade Down at 12?

IF the Saints decide to trade down, this is the year to do it. The skill level at 12, isn't all that much different than at 20.

One of these teams is gonna fall in love with a QB.
hagan714 likes this.
K Major is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/76767-trade-down-12-a.html
Posted By For Type Date Hits
Trade Down at 12? This thread Refback 02-15-2016 08:18 AM 2
The Latest Sam Bradford News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 02-15-2016 07:26 AM 1
The Latest New Orleans Saints News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 02-15-2016 07:20 AM 11


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:38 PM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com
no new posts