Trade Down at 12?

frydaddy · 02-15-2016, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I think the Bears go LB which will free up

A'Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama

I don't see how you pass on this guy.

I dunno. As others have mentioned, this is a very deep year for DT. Mike Mayock recently said as many as 12 could carry a first round grade. I would rather see them go DE, LB or G in the first and then pick up a DT in the second or third.

Euphoria · 02-15-2016, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

I dunno. As others have mentioned, this is a very deep year for DT. Mike Mayock recently said as many as 12 could carry a first round grade. I would rather see them go DE, LB or G in the first and then pick up a DT in the second or third.

We have to rebuild the D. We do anything with that pick other than this guy then everyone should be looking for a new job!!!

You build the D from the inside out. You get a this guy and then we start working out from there.

I think the lesson we can take from the ones who have been winning the SB's is DEFENSE!!! Rebuild this damn D FINALLY and then we can start adding to the O. QB and G/T next season for sure but right now everything we go goes to D.

Rugby Saint II · 02-15-2016, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

We have to rebuild the D. We do anything with that pick other than this guy then everyone should be looking for a new job!!!

You build the D from the inside out. You get a this guy and then we start working out from there.

I think the lesson we can take from the ones who have been winning the SB's is DEFENSE!!! Rebuild this damn D FINALLY and then we can start adding to the O. QB and G/T next season for sure but right now everything we go goes to D.

I feel you and I felt the same way but we need a LB'er badly and if the draft really is that deep at DT then we better grab a guy who can stop the TE.

triman · 02-15-2016, 07:07 PM

I wrote a thread about this earlier . The Rams and Texas might have to move ahead of the Eagles to get a QB they / value . IMHO I would move back to #15 for a third rd pick. Players could also be trade bait as the Rams are stacked on D. The Texans would have to pony up quite a bit more like a 2 and a three.
There's a lot of talent available in the 2nd rd . We also have lots of spots to fill and draft picks are salary cap helpful. After FA we will be able to determine more about draft needs. The Rams scenario is much more palatable. However,there will be lots of players in the second rd that could improve our talent level. Things will get very interesting after the combine . Can't wait. Hope springs eternal for the ever suffering Saints fan.

lsutigerfan · 02-17-2016, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by triman

I wrote a thread about this earlier . The Rams and Texas might have to move ahead of the Eagles to get a QB they / value . IMHO I would move back to #15 for a third rd pick. Players could also be trade bait as the Rams are stacked on D. The Texans would have to pony up quite a bit more like a 2 and a three.
There's a lot of talent available in the 2nd rd . We also have lots of spots to fill and draft picks are salary cap helpful. After FA we will be able to determine more about draft needs. The Rams scenario is much more palatable. However,there will be lots of players in the second rd that could improve our talent level. Things will get very interesting after the combine . Can't wait. Hope springs eternal for the ever suffering Saints fan.

We're talking about a possible franchise QB, if the Rams want a QB that bad, I'd force them to part with a 2nd rounder or possibly Alec Ogletree.

hagan714 · 02-17-2016, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan

We're talking about a possible franchise QB, if the Rams want a QB that bad, I'd force them to part with a 2nd rounder or possibly Alec Ogletree.

Alec Ogletree? boy that brings up old draft wounds But cap hit?

I would settle for two of the better backups, WLB Mark Barron and CB Trumaine Johnson. Two solid up and coming young pups that would be an upgrade and cap friendly for at least the next 4 years.

hitta · 02-17-2016, 08:27 AM

Trading down would be a good idea this year. We have a lot of positions that need filling and we need as many picks as we can to do it. We lack cap space and the draft is the best place to fix our problems.

Rugby Saint II · 02-17-2016, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

Trading down would be a good idea this year. We have a lot of positions that need filling and we need as many picks as we can to do it. We lack cap space and the draft is the best place to fix our problems.

If we can replicate last years draft with a hit on ALL draft picks then I would be willing to trade down and get an additional early round pick. Ireland seems to have the eye for defense that Payton has for offense.

If we can nail two front seven picks in the draft we can compete with anyone if we stay healthy. We aren't as far away as some people think. If we had just fielded our starters throughout the year we'd have a winning record and possibly made a little run in the playoffs. We have holes but some of our depth will step into a starting role.(think of Snead last year)
The schedule looks tougher than last year but so does our team.

View Poll Results: Trade Down
Philadelphia Eagles R1-13 and R4-110	1	2.86%
La Rams R1-15 and R3-76	6	17.14%
Houston Texans R1-22, R2-52, R4-116	10	28.57%
Recievng end of a Ditka for Drew	2	5.71%
Stay put at 12	16	45.71%
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02-15-2016, 02:23 PM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Trade Down at 12? Originally Posted by frydaddy I dunno. As others have mentioned, this is a very deep year for DT. Mike Mayock recently said as many as 12 could carry a first round grade. I would rather see them go DE, LB or G in the first and then pick up a DT in the second or third. We have to rebuild the D. We do anything with that pick other than this guy then everyone should be looking for a new job!!! You build the D from the inside out. You get a this guy and then we start working out from there. I think the lesson we can take from the ones who have been winning the SB's is DEFENSE!!! Rebuild this damn D FINALLY and then we can start adding to the O. QB and G/T next season for sure but right now everything we go goes to D.

02-15-2016, 05:05 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Trade Down at 12? Originally Posted by Euphoria We have to rebuild the D. We do anything with that pick other than this guy then everyone should be looking for a new job!!! You build the D from the inside out. You get a this guy and then we start working out from there. I think the lesson we can take from the ones who have been winning the SB's is DEFENSE!!! Rebuild this damn D FINALLY and then we can start adding to the O. QB and G/T next season for sure but right now everything we go goes to D. I feel you and I felt the same way but we need a LB'er badly and if the draft really is that deep at DT then we better grab a guy who can stop the TE. jnormand likes this.

02-15-2016, 07:07 PM	#4
triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: Trade Down at 12? I wrote a thread about this earlier . The Rams and Texas might have to move ahead of the Eagles to get a QB they / value . IMHO I would move back to #15 for a third rd pick. Players could also be trade bait as the Rams are stacked on D. The Texans would have to pony up quite a bit more like a 2 and a three. There's a lot of talent available in the 2nd rd . We also have lots of spots to fill and draft picks are salary cap helpful. After FA we will be able to determine more about draft needs. The Rams scenario is much more palatable. However,there will be lots of players in the second rd that could improve our talent level. Things will get very interesting after the combine . Can't wait. Hope springs eternal for the ever suffering Saints fan. hagan714 and Rugby Saint II like this.
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02-17-2016, 12:03 AM	#5
lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: Trade Down at 12? Originally Posted by triman I wrote a thread about this earlier . The Rams and Texas might have to move ahead of the Eagles to get a QB they / value . IMHO I would move back to #15 for a third rd pick. Players could also be trade bait as the Rams are stacked on D. The Texans would have to pony up quite a bit more like a 2 and a three. There's a lot of talent available in the 2nd rd . We also have lots of spots to fill and draft picks are salary cap helpful. After FA we will be able to determine more about draft needs. The Rams scenario is much more palatable. However,there will be lots of players in the second rd that could improve our talent level. Things will get very interesting after the combine . Can't wait. Hope springs eternal for the ever suffering Saints fan. We're talking about a possible franchise QB, if the Rams want a QB that bad, I'd force them to part with a 2nd rounder or possibly Alec Ogletree. hagan714 likes this.

02-15-2016, 10:14 AM	#1
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,964 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Trade Down at 12? Originally Posted by Euphoria I think the Bears go LB which will free up A'Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama I don't see how you pass on this guy. I dunno. As others have mentioned, this is a very deep year for DT. Mike Mayock recently said as many as 12 could carry a first round grade. I would rather see them go DE, LB or G in the first and then pick up a DT in the second or third. Rugby Saint II, Utah_Saint and WhoDatFan26 like this.

02-17-2016, 05:23 AM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Trade Down at 12? Originally Posted by lsutigerfan We're talking about a possible franchise QB, if the Rams want a QB that bad, I'd force them to part with a 2nd rounder or possibly Alec Ogletree. Alec Ogletree? boy that brings up old draft wounds But cap hit? I would settle for two of the better backups, WLB Mark Barron and CB Trumaine Johnson. Two solid up and coming young pups that would be an upgrade and cap friendly for at least the next 4 years. lsutigerfan and Rugby Saint II like this.

02-17-2016, 08:27 AM	#7
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,339	Re: Trade Down at 12? Trading down would be a good idea this year. We have a lot of positions that need filling and we need as many picks as we can to do it. We lack cap space and the draft is the best place to fix our problems. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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02-17-2016, 12:40 PM	#8
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Trade Down at 12? Originally Posted by hitta Trading down would be a good idea this year. We have a lot of positions that need filling and we need as many picks as we can to do it. We lack cap space and the draft is the best place to fix our problems. If we can replicate last years draft with a hit on ALL draft picks then I would be willing to trade down and get an additional early round pick. Ireland seems to have the eye for defense that Payton has for offense. If we can nail two front seven picks in the draft we can compete with anyone if we stay healthy. We aren't as far away as some people think. If we had just fielded our starters throughout the year we'd have a winning record and possibly made a little run in the playoffs. We have holes but some of our depth will step into a starting role.(think of Snead last year) The schedule looks tougher than last year but so does our team. hagan714 likes this.
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