Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal

rezburna · 03-10-2016, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Not to take the focus away from the recent Coby signing but ...why we have so many good looking pieces on paper but are so bad? It's because those pieces on defense are at CB, S and Cam Jordan plus a bunch of rookies but we were most certainly dreadfully bad because we were below average at the LB spot. The defense was a broken group, it didn't transition well from one level to the next. It reflected the coaching, filled with uncertainty, change and philosophy. Some of those good pieces were meant for a 34. Some were meant for a 43. Some were meant to play zone and some were meant for man. Because we've flipped flopped schemes for so long and drafted according to that scheme we've become the most versatile defense in the league and it shows on the field because we sucked in every different situation imaginable.

We lack team speed on defense so badly its pathetic.

We are a slow team. True enough.

|Mitch| · 03-10-2016, 12:24 PM

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Danno · 03-10-2016, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

We are a slow team. True enough.

I think we used to be with Lofton, Hawthorne, Browner,

Byrd, Vaccaro, Lewis, Breaux, Anthony, Kikaha, Ellerbe, and Jordan are not slow.

Throw in PJ Williams and Davis Tull and we have pretty good speed.

We could definitely use some more speed at OLB and DT/DE, but I wouldn't say were slow anymore.

rezburna · 03-11-2016, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think we used to be with Lofton, Hawthorne, Browner,

Byrd, Vaccaro, Lewis, Breaux, Anthony, Kikaha, Ellerbe, and Jordan are not slow.

Throw in PJ Williams and Davis Tull and we have pretty good speed.

We could definitely use some more speed at OLB and DT/DE, but I wouldn't say were slow anymore.

True. I think Kikiha is slow, but everybody else I agree with.

|Mitch| · 03-10-2016, 01:48 PM

|Mitch| · 03-12-2016, 09:13 AM

Fleener questions effort of some ex-Colts teammates - NFL.com

Fleener later told Sirius XM NFL Radio that it was easy to pick the Saints after the Colts made little effort to re-sign him.

"The Colts' lack of interest and the Saints' interest made going to New Orleans an easy choice," Fleener said.

Indy prefers the skill set of the more versatile Dwayne Allen at tight end. As for Fleener, he prefers being wanted by the Saints.

dizzle88 · 03-10-2016, 10:01 AM

It really hits you how slow our defense is when you watch the number 1 defense in football literally win the SuperBowl on their own.

Seer1 · 03-10-2016, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

It really hits you how slow our defense is when you watch the number 1 defense in football literally win the SuperBowl on their own.

Not really a secret there.

jeanpierre · 03-10-2016, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

It really hits you how slow our defense is when you watch the number 1 defense in football literally win the SuperBowl on their own.

Not true. Not true at all...Cam Newton helped...

Rugby Saint II · 03-10-2016, 02:16 PM

So, this contract is really a two year prove it deal. Even at seven million a year which seems a little expensive it's great to give Drew a big target.

03-10-2016, 09:58 AM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,086	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by K Major Not to take the focus away from the recent Coby signing but ...why we have so many good looking pieces on paper but are so bad? It's because those pieces on defense are at CB, S and Cam Jordan plus a bunch of rookies but we were most certainly dreadfully bad because we were below average at the LB spot. The defense was a broken group, it didn't transition well from one level to the next. It reflected the coaching, filled with uncertainty, change and philosophy. Some of those good pieces were meant for a 34. Some were meant for a 43. Some were meant to play zone and some were meant for man. Because we've flipped flopped schemes for so long and drafted according to that scheme we've become the most versatile defense in the league and it shows on the field because we sucked in every different situation imaginable. We lack team speed on defense so badly its pathetic. We are a slow team. True enough.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by rezburna We are a slow team. True enough. I think we used to be with Lofton, Hawthorne, Browner, Byrd, Vaccaro, Lewis, Breaux, Anthony, Kikaha, Ellerbe, and Jordan are not slow. Throw in PJ Williams and Davis Tull and we have pretty good speed. We could definitely use some more speed at OLB and DT/DE, but I wouldn't say were slow anymore. rezburna likes this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,086	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by Danno I think we used to be with Lofton, Hawthorne, Browner, Byrd, Vaccaro, Lewis, Breaux, Anthony, Kikaha, Ellerbe, and Jordan are not slow. Throw in PJ Williams and Davis Tull and we have pretty good speed. We could definitely use some more speed at OLB and DT/DE, but I wouldn't say were slow anymore. True. I think Kikiha is slow, but everybody else I agree with.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Twitter

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Fleener questions effort of some ex-Colts teammates - NFL.com Fleener later told Sirius XM NFL Radio that it was easy to pick the Saints after the Colts made little effort to re-sign him. "The Colts' lack of interest and the Saints' interest made going to New Orleans an easy choice," Fleener said. Indy prefers the skill set of the more versatile Dwayne Allen at tight end. As for Fleener, he prefers being wanted by the Saints.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal It really hits you how slow our defense is when you watch the number 1 defense in football literally win the SuperBowl on their own. RaginCajun83 likes this.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by dizzle88 It really hits you how slow our defense is when you watch the number 1 defense in football literally win the SuperBowl on their own. Not really a secret there. RaginCajun83 likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by dizzle88 It really hits you how slow our defense is when you watch the number 1 defense in football literally win the SuperBowl on their own. Not true. Not true at all...Cam Newton helped...

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