Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal

03-10-2016, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Not to take the focus away from the recent Coby signing but ...why we have so many good looking pieces on paper but are so bad? It's because those pieces on defense are at CB, S and Cam Jordan plus a bunch of rookies but we were most certainly dreadfully bad because we were below average at the LB spot. The defense was a broken group, it didn't transition well from one level to the next. It reflected the coaching, filled with uncertainty, change and philosophy. Some of those good pieces were meant for a 34. Some were meant for a 43. Some were meant to play zone and some were meant for man. Because we've flipped flopped schemes for so long and drafted according to that scheme we've become the most versatile defense in the league and it shows on the field because we sucked in every different situation imaginable.

We lack team speed on defense so badly its pathetic.

We are a slow team. True enough.

dizzle88 · 03-10-2016, 10:01 AM

It really hits you how slow our defense is when you watch the number 1 defense in football literally win the SuperBowl on their own.

Seer1 · 03-10-2016, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

It really hits you how slow our defense is when you watch the number 1 defense in football literally win the SuperBowl on their own.

Not really a secret there.

Seer1 · 03-10-2016, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

yeah and then we are left with the ageless questions
- Who is gonna block?
- Who is going to play D.

The team that wins the Superbowl...

RaginCajun83 · 03-10-2016, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

So, which 4 are you referring to. And the rest are crap? Really?

Jordan
Breaux
Anthony
Kikaha
Vaccaro

Given the FACT they ranked so low, yes the rest is crap. Ellerbe made his name playing next Ray Lewis and hasn't done a thing since leaving Balt

|Mitch| · 03-10-2016, 12:24 PM

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Danno · 03-10-2016, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

We are a slow team. True enough.

I think we used to be with Lofton, Hawthorne, Browner,

Byrd, Vaccaro, Lewis, Breaux, Anthony, Kikaha, Ellerbe, and Jordan are not slow.

Throw in PJ Williams and Davis Tull and we have pretty good speed.

We could definitely use some more speed at OLB and DT/DE, but I wouldn't say were slow anymore.

|Mitch| · 03-10-2016, 01:48 PM

Rugby Saint II · 03-10-2016, 02:16 PM

So, this contract is really a two year prove it deal. Even at seven million a year which seems a little expensive it's great to give Drew a big target.

|Mitch| · 03-10-2016, 02:22 PM

03-10-2016, 09:58 AM	#121
Threaded by rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,848 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by K Major Not to take the focus away from the recent Coby signing but ...why we have so many good looking pieces on paper but are so bad? It's because those pieces on defense are at CB, S and Cam Jordan plus a bunch of rookies but we were most certainly dreadfully bad because we were below average at the LB spot. The defense was a broken group, it didn't transition well from one level to the next. It reflected the coaching, filled with uncertainty, change and philosophy. Some of those good pieces were meant for a 34. Some were meant for a 43. Some were meant to play zone and some were meant for man. Because we've flipped flopped schemes for so long and drafted according to that scheme we've become the most versatile defense in the league and it shows on the field because we sucked in every different situation imaginable. We lack team speed on defense so badly its pathetic. We are a slow team. True enough.
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03-10-2016, 10:01 AM	#122
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal It really hits you how slow our defense is when you watch the number 1 defense in football literally win the SuperBowl on their own. RaginCajun83 likes this.

03-10-2016, 10:24 AM	#123
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by dizzle88 It really hits you how slow our defense is when you watch the number 1 defense in football literally win the SuperBowl on their own. Not really a secret there. RaginCajun83 likes this.

03-10-2016, 10:27 AM	#124
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by Euphoria yeah and then we are left with the ageless questions - Who is gonna block? - Who is going to play D. The team that wins the Superbowl...

03-10-2016, 11:56 AM	#125
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by Danno So, which 4 are you referring to. And the rest are crap? Really? Jordan Breaux Anthony Kikaha Vaccaro Given the FACT they ranked so low, yes the rest is crap. Ellerbe made his name playing next Ray Lewis and hasn't done a thing since leaving Balt

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by rezburna We are a slow team. True enough. I think we used to be with Lofton, Hawthorne, Browner, Byrd, Vaccaro, Lewis, Breaux, Anthony, Kikaha, Ellerbe, and Jordan are not slow. Throw in PJ Williams and Davis Tull and we have pretty good speed. We could definitely use some more speed at OLB and DT/DE, but I wouldn't say were slow anymore. rezburna likes this.

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