Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal

|Mitch| · 03-09-2016, 07:24 PM

Supertek · 03-11-2016, 04:01 PM

Jerell Adams TE South Carolina

|Mitch| · 03-11-2016, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Supertek

Jerell Adams TE South Carolina

I'm not impressed by Adams, and Fleener is more athletic who runs an average 4.51 40

Jerell Adams, TE, South Carolina
Height: 6-5. Weight: 244. Arm: 34. Hand: 8.75.
40 Time: 4.64.
Projected Round (2015): 2-4.
3/5/16: Adams had an excellent combine workout to really help his draft stock. He had the fastest 40 time of any tight end there and showed some nice athleticism in the field work.

Adams took over for Rory Anderson in 2015 and had a good season despite poor quarterback play at South Carolina. Adams totaled 28 catches for 421 yards with three touchdowns on the year. As a junior (21-279-1) and sophomore (13-187-2), he had modest contributions. Adams had a solid week at the Senior Bowl, and given the weak tight end class, he could be drafted earlier than expected.

Bolded is not good; I'd hate to use a high to mid round pick on a TE when there is so much defensive talent this year

Lord_Saint83 · 03-09-2016, 07:26 PM

Like the move, there was no one in the draft that could be a starter week one in my opinion

blackangold · 03-09-2016, 07:30 PM

Fleener isn't the issue. The contract is awful.

I know there is some magic baked into the contract with loom is around but there is no way he is worth 7mil per year. We could have some UDFA TE come in and do fairly we'll with Brees throwing the ball.

Fleener might be ok, but he isn't worth close to what we just paid.

jnormand · 03-09-2016, 07:31 PM

Another target for Drew. I like the move as well. Just hope we get something done on the offensive and defensive lines.

|Mitch| · 03-09-2016, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Another target for Drew. I like the move as well. Just hope we get something done on the offensive and defensive lines.

I'm guessing the lines will have to wait until the draft...

neugey · 03-09-2016, 07:42 PM

Maybe a little too much money, but at least we got younger. Will miss Watson's leadership big-time though.

ChrisXVI · 03-09-2016, 07:45 PM

Yikes, another bad grade:

Coby Fleener (Saints): D+

Last year, the Saints knew that they had to rebuild their offensive line and defense, even if it meant sacrificing their pass-catching tight end, so they sent Jimmy Graham to the Seahawks and acquired Max Unger and draft picks. A year later, with their offensive line struggling and their defense still a mess, it seems like they just gave up and went after a less impressive receiving tight end. Fleener isn't close to Graham's equal as a field-stretching receiver, and the Saints did just fine without that sort of weapon in their offense last year, turning Ben Watson into a viable tight end. After losing Watson to the Ravens, the Saints took what precious little cap space they had and decided to use it on Fleener's five-year, $36-million deal. It's reminiscent of their bizarre decision to invest heavily in running backs (of all things) last year, and speaks to just how flawed the organizational process has gotten in New Orleans.

jonnyrotten · 03-09-2016, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Yikes, another bad grade:

Coby Fleener (Saints): D+

Last year, the Saints knew that they had to rebuild their offensive line and defense, even if it meant sacrificing their pass-catching tight end, so they sent Jimmy Graham to the Seahawks and acquired Max Unger and draft picks. A year later, with their offensive line struggling and their defense still a mess, it seems like they just gave up and went after a less impressive receiving tight end. Fleener isn't close to Graham's equal as a field-stretching receiver, and the Saints did just fine without that sort of weapon in their offense last year, turning Ben Watson into a viable tight end. After losing Watson to the Ravens, the Saints took what precious little cap space they had and decided to use it on Fleener's five-year, $36-million deal. It's reminiscent of their bizarre decision to invest heavily in running backs (of all things) last year, and speaks to just how flawed the organizational process has gotten in New Orleans.

Couldn't have said it better myself. This decision is mind boggling. I have officially lost faith in Loomis with these continual awful FA decisions and contracts.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by Supertek Jerell Adams TE South Carolina I'm not impressed by Adams, and Fleener is more athletic who runs an average 4.51 40 Jerell Adams, TE, South Carolina Height: 6-5. Weight: 244. Arm: 34. Hand: 8.75. 40 Time: 4.64. Projected Round (2015): 2-4. 3/5/16: Adams had an excellent combine workout to really help his draft stock. He had the fastest 40 time of any tight end there and showed some nice athleticism in the field work. Adams took over for Rory Anderson in 2015 and had a good season despite poor quarterback play at South Carolina. Adams totaled 28 catches for 421 yards with three touchdowns on the year. As a junior (21-279-1) and sophomore (13-187-2), he had modest contributions. Adams had a solid week at the Senior Bowl, and given the weak tight end class, he could be drafted earlier than expected. Bolded is not good; I'd hate to use a high to mid round pick on a TE when there is so much defensive talent this year

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Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Like the move, there was no one in the draft that could be a starter week one in my opinion

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Fleener isn't the issue. The contract is awful. I know there is some magic baked into the contract with loom is around but there is no way he is worth 7mil per year. We could have some UDFA TE come in and do fairly we'll with Brees throwing the ball. Fleener might be ok, but he isn't worth close to what we just paid. jonnyrotten and brees84 like this.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,740	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Another target for Drew. I like the move as well. Just hope we get something done on the offensive and defensive lines.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by jnormand Another target for Drew. I like the move as well. Just hope we get something done on the offensive and defensive lines. I'm guessing the lines will have to wait until the draft... Beastmode likes this.

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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,825 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Maybe a little too much money, but at least we got younger. Will miss Watson's leadership big-time though.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Yikes, another bad grade: Coby Fleener (Saints): D+ Last year, the Saints knew that they had to rebuild their offensive line and defense, even if it meant sacrificing their pass-catching tight end, so they sent Jimmy Graham to the Seahawks and acquired Max Unger and draft picks. A year later, with their offensive line struggling and their defense still a mess, it seems like they just gave up and went after a less impressive receiving tight end. Fleener isn't close to Graham's equal as a field-stretching receiver, and the Saints did just fine without that sort of weapon in their offense last year, turning Ben Watson into a viable tight end. After losing Watson to the Ravens, the Saints took what precious little cap space they had and decided to use it on Fleener's five-year, $36-million deal. It's reminiscent of their bizarre decision to invest heavily in running backs (of all things) last year, and speaks to just how flawed the organizational process has gotten in New Orleans. jonnyrotten and blackangold like this.
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jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 512	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Yikes, another bad grade: Coby Fleener (Saints): D+ Last year, the Saints knew that they had to rebuild their offensive line and defense, even if it meant sacrificing their pass-catching tight end, so they sent Jimmy Graham to the Seahawks and acquired Max Unger and draft picks. A year later, with their offensive line struggling and their defense still a mess, it seems like they just gave up and went after a less impressive receiving tight end. Fleener isn't close to Graham's equal as a field-stretching receiver, and the Saints did just fine without that sort of weapon in their offense last year, turning Ben Watson into a viable tight end. After losing Watson to the Ravens, the Saints took what precious little cap space they had and decided to use it on Fleener's five-year, $36-million deal. It's reminiscent of their bizarre decision to invest heavily in running backs (of all things) last year, and speaks to just how flawed the organizational process has gotten in New Orleans. Couldn't have said it better myself. This decision is mind boggling. I have officially lost faith in Loomis with these continual awful FA decisions and contracts.

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