Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns'

|Mitch| · 04-11-2016, 10:12 PM

Consistent with EU trends,[4] the Crime Survey for England and Wales 2014/2015 figures[5] show that crime in the UK is currently at its lowest level since the CSEW began in 1981, having decreased dramatically from its peak in 1995 and by 27% in the past five years alone. For example, 1.32 million violent crimes were counted in 2014/2015 compared to 4.2 million in 1994/95.

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|Mitch| · 04-11-2016, 10:15 PM

But to say that if hand guns were banned the murder rate would not go down significantly is asinine...

I'd sure rather go up against somebody wielding a knife rather than they pull a gun

bobdog86 · 04-11-2016, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

But to say that if hand guns were banned the murder rate would not go down significantly is asinine...

I'd sure rather go up against somebody wielding a knife rather than they pull a gun

I wouldn't, I handle a hand gun way better than a knife, I like my chances better….just saying…Evil people do Evil crap, including crap like this..Go ahead and ban guns then trash like will have them and law abiding, trained people like myself will not.

|Mitch| · 04-11-2016, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by bobdog86

I wouldn't, I handle a hand gun way better than a knife, I like my chances better….just saying…Evil people do Evil crap, including crap like this..Go ahead and ban guns then trash like will have them and law abiding, trained people like myself will not.

That's the only problem I see; getting the existing weapons off the street. And not everyone is trained and carry guns...

(And yes, I do have my CCW and carry a Glock 27 .40; fits between my seat and console in the Mustang nicely)

bobdog86 · 04-11-2016, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

That's the only problem I see; getting the existing weapons off the street. And not everyone is trained and carry guns...

(And yes, I do have my CCW and carry a Glock 27 .40; fits between my seat and console in the Mustang nicely)

I believe we are on the same page, thats the daunting task, ridding the existing guns on the streets that are in the wrong hands. Nice choice on the Glock, i carry the Springfield XD in the .45. and also have a CCW. Sad situation all the way around. Praying for his family.

burningmetal · 04-12-2016, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

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This information below would seem to contradict yours, rather starkly.

Violent crime jumps 27 per cent in new figures - Telegraph

And as we consider all of this, let's not forget that the UK isn't nearly as over-populated as America is. If you want to say that you wish guns had never been invented, that's whatever. But since they do exist, until we fix our border problems (which is unlikely to ever happen), we will have illegal weapons and drugs being put into the hands of evil people. Unless you can change humanity, you won't change crime.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns' Consistent with EU trends,[4] the Crime Survey for England and Wales 2014/2015 figures[5] show that crime in the UK is currently at its lowest level since the CSEW began in 1981, having decreased dramatically from its peak in 1995 and by 27% in the past five years alone. For example, 1.32 million violent crimes were counted in 2014/2015 compared to 4.2 million in 1994/95. . UK_WhoDat and ScottF like this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns' But to say that if hand guns were banned the murder rate would not go down significantly is asinine... I'd sure rather go up against somebody wielding a knife rather than they pull a gun RailBoss likes this.

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bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,487	Re: Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns' Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| But to say that if hand guns were banned the murder rate would not go down significantly is asinine... I'd sure rather go up against somebody wielding a knife rather than they pull a gun I wouldn't, I handle a hand gun way better than a knife, I like my chances better….just saying…Evil people do Evil crap, including crap like this..Go ahead and ban guns then trash like will have them and law abiding, trained people like myself will not.

04-11-2016, 11:06 PM	#4
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns' Originally Posted by bobdog86 I wouldn't, I handle a hand gun way better than a knife, I like my chances better….just saying…Evil people do Evil crap, including crap like this..Go ahead and ban guns then trash like will have them and law abiding, trained people like myself will not. That's the only problem I see; getting the existing weapons off the street. And not everyone is trained and carry guns... (And yes, I do have my CCW and carry a Glock 27 .40; fits between my seat and console in the Mustang nicely)

04-11-2016, 11:29 PM	#5
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,487	Re: Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns' Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| That's the only problem I see; getting the existing weapons off the street. And not everyone is trained and carry guns... (And yes, I do have my CCW and carry a Glock 27 .40; fits between my seat and console in the Mustang nicely) I believe we are on the same page, thats the daunting task, ridding the existing guns on the streets that are in the wrong hands. Nice choice on the Glock, i carry the Springfield XD in the .45. and also have a CCW. Sad situation all the way around. Praying for his family. \|Mitch\| likes this.

04-12-2016, 01:04 AM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns' Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| . This information below would seem to contradict yours, rather starkly. Violent crime jumps 27 per cent in new figures - Telegraph And as we consider all of this, let's not forget that the UK isn't nearly as over-populated as America is. If you want to say that you wish guns had never been invented, that's whatever. But since they do exist, until we fix our border problems (which is unlikely to ever happen), we will have illegal weapons and drugs being put into the hands of evil people. Unless you can change humanity, you won't change crime. jnormand, SapperSaint and mleg1972 like this.
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