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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by neugey I think addressing culture and mental health are the main issue, but I also think improved background checks for guns would help. If you're in a big hurry to get a gun and can't wait for ...

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Old 04-12-2016, 09:03 AM   #1
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I think addressing culture and mental health are the main issue, but I also think improved background checks for guns would help. If you're in a big hurry to get a gun and can't wait for a background check - not a good sign.
Funny you said that...Carol Bowne... fatally stabbed by ex-boyfriend while waiting for background check - NJ.com

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
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Funny you said that...

Carol Bowne... fatally stabbed by ex-boyfriend while waiting for background check - NJ.com



"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state,

the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
If the world would just stop BS'ing and give me superpowers I'd put a stop to all that...but nooooo.....they don't want to fund the Rez Burna becomes Batman with Wolverine skeleton and healing factor campaign.
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Old 04-12-2016, 09:35 AM   #3
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If the world would just stop BS'ing and give me superpowers I'd put a stop to all that...but nooooo.....they don't want to fund the Rez Burna becomes Batman with Wolverine skeleton and healing factor campaign.
Hey why not we Who Dats live in a fantasy world anyway. We seldom have
a grasp on reality until someone mentions Atlanta.
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Old 04-12-2016, 07:29 AM   #4
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gun control? to many out there and even if you managed to swoop in and get all the guns in one day. The criminals would have them again from across the boarder. just stating facts here. Good knows the government has flooded Mexico, Central and South America with them.

Issue at is the city state and the US government makes excuses for criminals and blame everyone but the shooter in these cases.

The lawyers go to Washington get elected to political office and pass laws that perpetuates their income. Lobbyist go to these same elected lawyers and lobby for drawn out sentence and rehabilitation to perpetuate their income.

This is one of many money making poncy scheme the US government have going in Washington.

The system is broken and no criminals fear it. They have all the rights and protection that victims have lost.

I say go back to old school with escalators. Make them fear the system once again.

Mandatory 10 years for a crime involving a gun and no chance of parole.
Mandatory 20 if they fire the that gun and no chance of parole.
Mandatory death penalty within 10 years if the kill some one and the case is not cut and dry
Instant death penalty for a murderer caught in the act.

Mandatory 10 years for all public officials and/or lawyers that reckless endanger an American citizen, directly or indirectly.

Chain gang comes back in style. They work for their room and board.

The city of New Orleans is not free of blame nor is Washington
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Well Coach Payton is human and there are two things he is not an expert - gun rights and football defense...
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With the ease of getting guns in this country, legally and illegally, there's never going to be a "fix" to the problem of gun violence. There's also never going to be a "fix" to a terrorist blowing themselves up if they choose to do so. So what do we do? The ideas floated around range from doing nothing at all, arming everyone, all the way up to martial law. Doing nothing accepts it. Arming everyone is insane. And martial law of course will never fly. Thus, here we are.
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With the ease of getting guns in this country, legally and illegally, there's never going to be a "fix" to the problem of gun violence. There's also never going to be a "fix" to a terrorist blowing themselves up if they choose to do so. So what do we do? The ideas floated around range from doing nothing at all, arming everyone, all the way up to martial law. Doing nothing accepts it. Arming everyone is insane. And martial law of course will never fly. Thus, here we are.
You're exactly right. And that's always been, and always will be the problem. There isn't a "fix". The only thing you can do is be vigilant as citizens, and law enforcement has to do everything in their power to identify threats, short of randomly breaking into homes without a warrant to find suspects.

Unfortunately the government hinders law enforcement's ability to keep on top of things when we are being bombarded by illegal aliens, and nothing is legitimately being done to stop it.

That's why I consider the anger toward guns to be misguided. People need to recognize that our government does not have our best interests in mind, and lack of "proper" gun laws are only a fraction of the problem. There are drugs being brought in. You have widespread poverty, leading to desperation, which often leads to crime. All of these things trace back to irresponsibility, and downright neglect, by our government. We're in a generation full of uninformed people who will believe any lie that gives them hope. This whole anti-gun movement is just the latest rhetoric to get our attention away from the heart our problems.

It's truly sad to watch this country fall apart at the seams.
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If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Who cares about the guns? I want to give 73Saint's avatar a work out.

Seriously... Just remember the difference between Britian and the USA is we are citizens had have guns... they are Subjects.
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I grew up in the NRA. It is my right to bear arms as an American. I hate that people confuse guns with motive.
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IIRC America includes suicides in their gun violence statistics. Many other countries do not.

I also remember reading the vast majority of gun deaths are indeed suicides.
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