Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity

AsylumGuido · 06-05-2016, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Reality. come on Guido you've been out there a few times yourself and like I said everyone has their own opinion.

Market value is not an opinion. It is an economic FACT.

An opinion is stating something like, "Personally, I don't think any player is worth $25 million."

On the other hand, stating, "NO PLAYER IS WORTH 25 MILLION A YEAR TO PLAY FOOTBALL!," is not an opinion. It is stated as fact and you know darned well that very soon there will be dozens of players making just that. Reality is and always has been and always will be that actual worth or value is set by what the free and open market is willing to bear. It is one of the most basic principles of economics.

AsylumGuido · 06-05-2016, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

The human head weighs 8 lbs.

CheramieIII · 06-05-2016, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Market value is not an opinion. It is an economic FACT.

An opinion is stating something like, "Personally, I don't think any player is worth $25 million."

On the other hand, stating, "NO PLAYER IS WORTH 25 MILLION A YEAR TO PLAY FOOTBALL!," is not an opinion. It is stated as fact and you know darned well that very soon there will be dozens of players making just that. Reality is and always has been and always will be that actual worth or value is set by what the free and open market is willing to bear. It is one of the most basic principles of economics.

Just because clubs choose to pay players the so called market value that doesn't mean my opinion about it is wrong it's still my opinion that no one is worth 25 million to play football.

CheramieIII · 06-05-2016, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Not all of them!

AsylumGuido · 06-05-2016, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Just because clubs choose to pay players the so called market value that doesn't mean my opinion about it is wrong it's still my opinion that no one is worth 25 million to play football.

Yes, stated that way it is your opinion and it is also not reality based upon the absolute definition of market value. It is your right to believe in something that is in all actuality false, as illogical as that may be.

jnormand · 06-05-2016, 02:40 PM

Jesus. Not again. Are you seriously going to start this again? Bashing people's opinions and telling them how illogical and stupid they are compared to you? Good hell. I've got a headache.

The Dude · 06-05-2016, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Sorry guys I was looking at some screwed up calculation for 2017 and 2018. I found Smash's post from Sportrac. I stand corrected on that one but still believe no one is worth 25 million to play football.

Of the millions of things that I choose to believe or not belief a football players salary hasn't even crossed my mind. I have other things to do besides forming opinions on how much money someone should make.

frydaddy · 06-05-2016, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Jesus. Not again. Are you seriously going to start this again? Bashing people's opinions and telling them how illogical and stupid they are compared to you? Good hell. I've got a headache.

Dunno why anyone gives him the time of day. He's just a crotchety old fella who gets his jollies by trolling anyone and everyone he disagrees with. Save yourself some time and ignore him. He'll never admit or acknowledge that he's wrong for his behavior, and he'll certainly never respect anyone else's opinion.

He will, of course, disagree with all of this.

CheramieIII · 06-05-2016, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Of the millions of things that I choose to believe or not belief a football players salary hasn't even crossed my mind. I have other things to do besides forming opinions on how much money someone should make.

But this site is for Saints football and salaries are part of that.

AsylumGuido · 06-05-2016, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Jesus. Not again. Are you seriously going to start this again? Bashing people's opinions and telling them how illogical and stupid they are compared to you? Good hell. I've got a headache.

No. Not starting again, I haven't stopped. I just finally got fed up with the uneducated bullcrap that a few of you are spreading concerning Brees, contracts and the Saints cap. I understand the truth is hard to take especially when it makes some of you feel so good bashing the greatest player in Saints history based upon totally false drivel. And, no, I not calling anyone illogical or stupid compared to me. I am calling them illogical with stupid arguments compared to any person that is logical and half way intelligent. Is it hitting close to home?

06-05-2016, 01:46 PM	#21
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity Originally Posted by CheramieIII Reality. come on Guido you've been out there a few times yourself and like I said everyone has their own opinion. Market value is not an opinion. It is an economic FACT. An opinion is stating something like, "Personally, I don't think any player is worth $25 million." On the other hand, stating, "NO PLAYER IS WORTH 25 MILLION A YEAR TO PLAY FOOTBALL!," is not an opinion. It is stated as fact and you know darned well that very soon there will be dozens of players making just that. Reality is and always has been and always will be that actual worth or value is set by what the free and open market is willing to bear. It is one of the most basic principles of economics. spkb25 likes this.

06-05-2016, 01:48 PM	#22
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity Originally Posted by The Dude The human head weighs 8 lbs.

06-05-2016, 01:54 PM	#23
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Market value is not an opinion. It is an economic FACT. An opinion is stating something like, "Personally, I don't think any player is worth $25 million." On the other hand, stating, "NO PLAYER IS WORTH 25 MILLION A YEAR TO PLAY FOOTBALL!," is not an opinion. It is stated as fact and you know darned well that very soon there will be dozens of players making just that. Reality is and always has been and always will be that actual worth or value is set by what the free and open market is willing to bear. It is one of the most basic principles of economics. Just because clubs choose to pay players the so called market value that doesn't mean my opinion about it is wrong it's still my opinion that no one is worth 25 million to play football. jnormand likes this.

06-05-2016, 02:01 PM	#24
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Not all of them!

06-05-2016, 02:02 PM	#25
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity Originally Posted by CheramieIII Just because clubs choose to pay players the so called market value that doesn't mean my opinion about it is wrong it's still my opinion that no one is worth 25 million to play football. Yes, stated that way it is your opinion and it is also not reality based upon the absolute definition of market value. It is your right to believe in something that is in all actuality false, as illogical as that may be. spkb25 likes this.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Re: Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity Jesus. Not again. Are you seriously going to start this again? Bashing people's opinions and telling them how illogical and stupid they are compared to you? Good hell. I've got a headache. CheramieIII and dizzle88 like this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity Originally Posted by CheramieIII Sorry guys I was looking at some screwed up calculation for 2017 and 2018. I found Smash's post from Sportrac. I stand corrected on that one but still believe no one is worth 25 million to play football. Of the millions of things that I choose to believe or not belief a football players salary hasn't even crossed my mind. I have other things to do besides forming opinions on how much money someone should make. AsylumGuido likes this.
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06-05-2016, 02:46 PM	#28
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity Originally Posted by jnormand Jesus. Not again. Are you seriously going to start this again? Bashing people's opinions and telling them how illogical and stupid they are compared to you? Good hell. I've got a headache. Dunno why anyone gives him the time of day. He's just a crotchety old fella who gets his jollies by trolling anyone and everyone he disagrees with. Save yourself some time and ignore him. He'll never admit or acknowledge that he's wrong for his behavior, and he'll certainly never respect anyone else's opinion. He will, of course, disagree with all of this. CheramieIII and dizzle88 like this.

06-05-2016, 03:04 PM	#29
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity Originally Posted by The Dude Of the millions of things that I choose to believe or not belief a football players salary hasn't even crossed my mind. I have other things to do besides forming opinions on how much money someone should make. But this site is for Saints football and salaries are part of that.

06-05-2016, 03:10 PM	#30
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity Originally Posted by jnormand Jesus. Not again. Are you seriously going to start this again? Bashing people's opinions and telling them how illogical and stupid they are compared to you? Good hell. I've got a headache. No. Not starting again, I haven't stopped. I just finally got fed up with the uneducated bullcrap that a few of you are spreading concerning Brees, contracts and the Saints cap. I understand the truth is hard to take especially when it makes some of you feel so good bashing the greatest player in Saints history based upon totally false drivel. And, no, I not calling anyone illogical or stupid compared to me. I am calling them illogical with stupid arguments compared to any person that is logical and half way intelligent. Is it hitting close to home? spkb25 likes this.

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