Khiry Robinson and Lance Moore - Cop Haters

shawnkytonk · 07-10-2016, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Take your 3 whole posts elswhere

Sorry. The amount you post doesn't make you elite. You have an opinion......nothing more.

darksoul35 · 07-10-2016, 09:55 PM

I hate cops. When u get harassed and beat down by multiple cops it messes with your mental big time. I know from experience. As much as I hate them , there is no way I would even think about being happy that cops lost their lives. There are good ones out there and even the bad ones deserve a chance to change. They had absolutely nothing to do with the other shootings.

The Dude · 07-10-2016, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Good Post 25. I too have a lot of Black friends and 2 children who are Black and all of them say the same thing I do. We need to join hands to stop the monster (our own government)!

WE ARE ALL AMERICANS!

I ALSO AGREE GUN LAWS SHOULD HAVE PROTECTED THESE OFFICERS. You commit a felony, NO VOTE AND NO GUNS. It's the price for the felony, PERIOD!

Gun laws that are already on the books.

CheramieIII · 07-10-2016, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Gun laws that are already on the books.

Yes.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-11-2016, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

So what do we do if their are no police.

It's not a black and white choice between have police with little accountability and having no police. It's clear that the vast majority of police officers do an admirable and honorable job of serving and protecting the public on a daily basis.

However, in situations where excessive force is clearly used, then there needs to also be accountability in those situations. And in virtually every case, even in the face of video evidence, often that accountability is lacking.

The police are supposed to be the professionals in encounters with the public. We as civilians are supposed to trust that even in dangerous and stressful situations that they will remain calm and professional and follow proper protocol. It is difficult to see those traits in encounters where civilians pose no real threat yet have deadly force inflicted upon them.

It's not black and white. Virtually every police force in most civilized nations , including most police in this country, can and do protect and serve their citizens without shooting them dead.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-11-2016, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

I think they are just frustrated with the system. Can't seem to get indictments on cops who do the wrong thing. The Dallas cops weren't doing the wrong thing and should not have attacked.

Exactly.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-11-2016, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Show me one "cold blooded killing". I will destroy any arguement you put fourth.

I have to agree for the most part. Calling it "cold blooded killing" is both disingenouous and unhelpful. The most recent one that may be subject to debate is the shooting death of Walter Scott in South Carolina last year. But I don't even want to go there.

People always want to "put themselves in the blacks shoes". How about putting yourself in the officers shoes? Better yet, put yourself in my shoes. Try being a minority and a officer.

Can you help frame this for us then? While I agree that "cold blood" isn't on the table, it would be helpful to understand the thought processes that lead to the snap judgement to discharge a firearm into a citizen. Given what you have seen and heard about these two incidents how could each have ended differently? To the average person it seems unjustified because it doesn't seem like there is an obvious threat that demands lethal force in response. Is there another perspective that you can offer?

SFIAH

Exxcalibur · 07-11-2016, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Robinson - "Now they want us to feel sympathy for the cops, Now".

Moore - "I pray for the friends and family of all of the officers that were brutally shot or murdered. I would never condone murder. But..."

Hopefully these two guys get hit by a bus at an extremely high speed.

Best thing you've ever written, Danno.

#bluelivesmatter

SaintGup · 07-11-2016, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

global warming, exponentially growing population, melting ice caps, brutal weather fluctuations, worthless dollars, ballooning immigration issues, out of control debt, mass surveillance, compliant media,

crumbling healthcare, crippling student debt, unaffordable education, aging infrastructure, chemically altered foods, skyrocketing grocery costs, rampant narcotic abuse, corrupt banking system,

laughably corrupt political system run by lobbyists (i.e. money), perpetual war, big pharma price gouging, unwilling Fed, social media mob mentality, disappearing middle class, extreme terrorists decapitating everyone (including children), crumbling European Union, revived Cold War, hemorrhaging breaches in personal information due to inept cyber warfare

...and now this? Do we really need to burn our last fuse from both ends? It's not the pitiful state of our government that I'm upset with as much as I'm upset with the sheep that are content to keep herding from crisis to crisis, ignoring the pupeteering strings of our money worshipping masters. AKA your friendly lawmakers.

"We still live in the best country in the world!" just isn't good enough any more. That's the sound of a defeated citizen, content with watching the toilet swirl.

Problems like these don't get solved with statistics and old lines of thinking. Step outside the box, reframe the question, and work backwards to the solution. Think laterally.

This Ad brought to you by NIKE: JUST DO IT!

Sorry, I was concentrating on something else...what were you saying?

voodooido · 07-11-2016, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by darksoul35

I hate cops. When u get harassed and beat down by multiple cops it messes with your mental big time. I know from experience. As much as I hate them , there is no way I would even think about being happy that cops lost their lives. There are good ones out there and even the bad ones deserve a chance to change. They had absolutely nothing to do with the other shootings.

Well, thanks, I love you too. You ever think that maybe your actions are the reason for the officers? You ever think you should take the high road and change your hate and maybe the ones you call bad would change theirs? Ever think that the officer that "was just mean to you" is still affected by the last call where he had to clean up a crime scene where a child died? Officers are human too. Never forget that.

07-10-2016, 09:40 PM	#51
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Khiry Robinson and Lance Moore - Cop Haters Originally Posted by Danno Take your 3 whole posts elswhere Sorry. The amount you post doesn't make you elite. You have an opinion......nothing more.

07-10-2016, 09:55 PM	#52
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,041	Re: Khiry Robinson and Lance Moore - Cop Haters I hate cops. When u get harassed and beat down by multiple cops it messes with your mental big time. I know from experience. As much as I hate them , there is no way I would even think about being happy that cops lost their lives. There are good ones out there and even the bad ones deserve a chance to change. They had absolutely nothing to do with the other shootings.
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07-10-2016, 10:00 PM	#53
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Khiry Robinson and Lance Moore - Cop Haters Originally Posted by CheramieIII Good Post 25. I too have a lot of Black friends and 2 children who are Black and all of them say the same thing I do. We need to join hands to stop the monster (our own government)! WE ARE ALL AMERICANS! I ALSO AGREE GUN LAWS SHOULD HAVE PROTECTED THESE OFFICERS. You commit a felony, NO VOTE AND NO GUNS. It's the price for the felony, PERIOD! Gun laws that are already on the books. RockyMountainSaint likes this.
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07-10-2016, 10:37 PM	#54
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Khiry Robinson and Lance Moore - Cop Haters Originally Posted by The Dude Gun laws that are already on the books. Yes.

07-11-2016, 12:43 AM	#55
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Khiry Robinson and Lance Moore - Cop Haters Originally Posted by QBREES9 So what do we do if their are no police. It's not a black and white choice between have police with little accountability and having no police. It's clear that the vast majority of police officers do an admirable and honorable job of serving and protecting the public on a daily basis. However, in situations where excessive force is clearly used, then there needs to also be accountability in those situations. And in virtually every case, even in the face of video evidence, often that accountability is lacking. The police are supposed to be the professionals in encounters with the public. We as civilians are supposed to trust that even in dangerous and stressful situations that they will remain calm and professional and follow proper protocol. It is difficult to see those traits in encounters where civilians pose no real threat yet have deadly force inflicted upon them. It's not black and white. Virtually every police force in most civilized nations , including most police in this country, can and do protect and serve their citizens without shooting them dead. SFIAH
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07-11-2016, 12:45 AM	#56
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Khiry Robinson and Lance Moore - Cop Haters Originally Posted by NOLA54 I think they are just frustrated with the system. Can't seem to get indictments on cops who do the wrong thing. The Dallas cops weren't doing the wrong thing and should not have attacked. Exactly. SFIAH

07-11-2016, 01:37 AM	#57
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Khiry Robinson and Lance Moore - Cop Haters Originally Posted by voodooido Show me one "cold blooded killing". I will destroy any arguement you put fourth. I have to agree for the most part. Calling it "cold blooded killing" is both disingenouous and unhelpful. The most recent one that may be subject to debate is the shooting death of Walter Scott in South Carolina last year. But I don't even want to go there. People always want to "put themselves in the blacks shoes". How about putting yourself in the officers shoes? Better yet, put yourself in my shoes. Try being a minority and a officer. Can you help frame this for us then? While I agree that "cold blood" isn't on the table, it would be helpful to understand the thought processes that lead to the snap judgement to discharge a firearm into a citizen. Given what you have seen and heard about these two incidents how could each have ended differently? To the average person it seems unjustified because it doesn't seem like there is an obvious threat that demands lethal force in response. Is there another perspective that you can offer? SFIAH
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07-11-2016, 04:34 AM	#58
Exxcalibur Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,389	Re: Khiry Robinson and Lance Moore - Cop Haters Originally Posted by Danno Robinson - "Now they want us to feel sympathy for the cops, Now". Moore - "I pray for the friends and family of all of the officers that were brutally shot or murdered. I would never condone murder. But..." Hopefully these two guys get hit by a bus at an extremely high speed. Best thing you've ever written, Danno. #bluelivesmatter

07-11-2016, 04:45 AM	#59
SaintGup 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London, England Posts: 580	Re: Khiry Robinson and Lance Moore - Cop Haters Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie global warming, exponentially growing population, melting ice caps, brutal weather fluctuations, worthless dollars, ballooning immigration issues, out of control debt, mass surveillance, compliant media, crumbling healthcare, crippling student debt, unaffordable education, aging infrastructure, chemically altered foods, skyrocketing grocery costs, rampant narcotic abuse, corrupt banking system, laughably corrupt political system run by lobbyists (i.e. money), perpetual war, big pharma price gouging, unwilling Fed, social media mob mentality, disappearing middle class, extreme terrorists decapitating everyone (including children), crumbling European Union, revived Cold War, hemorrhaging breaches in personal information due to inept cyber warfare ...and now this? Do we really need to burn our last fuse from both ends? It's not the pitiful state of our government that I'm upset with as much as I'm upset with the sheep that are content to keep herding from crisis to crisis, ignoring the pupeteering strings of our money worshipping masters. AKA your friendly lawmakers. "We still live in the best country in the world!" just isn't good enough any more. That's the sound of a defeated citizen, content with watching the toilet swirl. Problems like these don't get solved with statistics and old lines of thinking. Step outside the box, reframe the question, and work backwards to the solution. Think laterally. This Ad brought to you by NIKE: JUST DO IT! Sorry, I was concentrating on something else...what were you saying?

07-11-2016, 08:10 AM	#60
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Khiry Robinson and Lance Moore - Cop Haters Originally Posted by darksoul35 I hate cops. When u get harassed and beat down by multiple cops it messes with your mental big time. I know from experience. As much as I hate them , there is no way I would even think about being happy that cops lost their lives. There are good ones out there and even the bad ones deserve a chance to change. They had absolutely nothing to do with the other shootings. Well, thanks, I love you too. You ever think that maybe your actions are the reason for the officers? You ever think you should take the high road and change your hate and maybe the ones you call bad would change theirs? Ever think that the officer that "was just mean to you" is still affected by the last call where he had to clean up a crime scene where a child died? Officers are human too. Never forget that. jnormand and RockyMountainSaint like this.
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