5-11 to 7-9

dizzle88 · 08-27-2016, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

so he used to be a good head coach. agree, but I don't think he is anymore, and I sure hope I am wrong, but the team doesn't seem to have made any progress in 3 years

Great coaches win

We are barely hovering above .500 with Payton, one more losing season and we'll be 5-5 in terms of winning and losing seasons.

How much longer is he going to be classed as a successful coach? We won a superbowl nearly 7 years ago and have made 3 trips to the playoffs since.

We'll see how this season plays out, preseason is not making it look promising but another non-playoff season and I absolutely have to believe Payton is on his way out.

CharityMike · 08-27-2016, 03:37 PM

LOL at the excuses some are coming up with. Did any of you stay on the channel to hear coach's presser after the game? I did. Guess what...he knows our O line is eff'd. He actually said the lines on both sides but specifically talked about the O line saying it's worrisome. Does that give you nice warm fuzzies? His presser looked like a mid season presser and he looked worn out already. I want to believe as much as the next guy but all the signs are pointing to a looong season.

Danno · 08-27-2016, 04:01 PM

Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster.

Has Payton lost that fire?

dizzle88 · 08-27-2016, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster.

Has Payton lost that fire?

I think he lost it after 2013. I just don't see the passion and fight in him anymore.

I believe Payton should be firmly on the hot seat, another losing season is not acceptable, anything less than a playoff appearance and I'd start looking at life after Sean.

The Dude · 08-27-2016, 04:58 PM

We haven't even played a game yet. The season hasn't even started.

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster.

Has Payton lost that fire?

I don't think SP lost the fire, I think he has lost the ability to have the team respond

halloween 65 · 08-27-2016, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I think he lost it after 2013. I just don't see the passion and fight in him anymore.

I believe Payton should be firmly on the hot seat, another losing season is not acceptable, anything less than a playoff appearance and I'd start looking at life after Sean.

If he gets fired I would get rid of all his cronies to. Bill Cowher would be my choice as HC.

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

We haven't even played a game yet. The season hasn't even started.

this preseason does not sit in isolation. It isn't like we were 9-7 and then 10-6 the last two seasons and there is reason for optimism. We have been bad two years in a row without an ounce of improvement. the oline is the worst it has ever been here, the worst. People saying these things without playing a game are because we have the last two seasons to go off coupled with this preseason.

nola_swammi · 08-27-2016, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

LOL at the excuses some are coming up with. Did any of you stay on the channel to hear coach's presser after the game? I did. Guess what...he knows our O line is eff'd. He actually said the lines on both sides but specifically talked about the O line saying it's worrisome. Does that give you nice warm fuzzies? His presser looked like a mid season presser and he looked worn out already. I want to believe as much as the next guy but all the signs are pointing to a looong season.

It was pretty obvious our OL stunk but you see how he deflecting the OL with the DL? The DL actually was pushing the 1 st two drives but Ben reading that he have 1 on 1 with a rookie D Harris on A Brown burned us (how can you pressure a qb if held the ball for less than 2 seconds) then P J Williams. Give me a f***** break.

I haven't seen them develop one rookie since M Colston. Breaux was not a rookie so don't even mention him. Cooks still questionable. Ingram, how can he fully develop with that OL?

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

If he gets fired I would get rid of all his cronies to. Bill Cowher would be my choice as HC.

i'd like a tough guy like Bill, but I don't think Bill is coming back.

08-27-2016, 03:27 PM	#61
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,357	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by spkb25 so he used to be a good head coach. agree, but I don't think he is anymore, and I sure hope I am wrong, but the team doesn't seem to have made any progress in 3 years Great coaches win We are barely hovering above .500 with Payton, one more losing season and we'll be 5-5 in terms of winning and losing seasons. How much longer is he going to be classed as a successful coach? We won a superbowl nearly 7 years ago and have made 3 trips to the playoffs since. We'll see how this season plays out, preseason is not making it look promising but another non-playoff season and I absolutely have to believe Payton is on his way out.

08-27-2016, 03:37 PM	#62
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 LOL at the excuses some are coming up with. Did any of you stay on the channel to hear coach's presser after the game? I did. Guess what...he knows our O line is eff'd. He actually said the lines on both sides but specifically talked about the O line saying it's worrisome. Does that give you nice warm fuzzies? His presser looked like a mid season presser and he looked worn out already. I want to believe as much as the next guy but all the signs are pointing to a looong season. WhoDatFan26 likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster. Has Payton lost that fire? jnormand likes this.

08-27-2016, 04:07 PM	#64
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,357	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by Danno Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster. Has Payton lost that fire? I think he lost it after 2013. I just don't see the passion and fight in him anymore. I believe Payton should be firmly on the hot seat, another losing season is not acceptable, anything less than a playoff appearance and I'd start looking at life after Sean.

08-27-2016, 04:58 PM	#65
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 We haven't even played a game yet. The season hasn't even started. jnormand and AsylumGuido like this.
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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by Danno Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster. Has Payton lost that fire? I don't think SP lost the fire, I think he has lost the ability to have the team respond CharityMike likes this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by dizzle88 I think he lost it after 2013. I just don't see the passion and fight in him anymore. I believe Payton should be firmly on the hot seat, another losing season is not acceptable, anything less than a playoff appearance and I'd start looking at life after Sean. If he gets fired I would get rid of all his cronies to. Bill Cowher would be my choice as HC. dizzle88 likes this.

08-27-2016, 05:10 PM	#68
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by The Dude We haven't even played a game yet. The season hasn't even started. this preseason does not sit in isolation. It isn't like we were 9-7 and then 10-6 the last two seasons and there is reason for optimism. We have been bad two years in a row without an ounce of improvement. the oline is the worst it has ever been here, the worst. People saying these things without playing a game are because we have the last two seasons to go off coupled with this preseason.

08-27-2016, 05:13 PM	#69
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by CharityMike LOL at the excuses some are coming up with. Did any of you stay on the channel to hear coach's presser after the game? I did. Guess what...he knows our O line is eff'd. He actually said the lines on both sides but specifically talked about the O line saying it's worrisome. Does that give you nice warm fuzzies? His presser looked like a mid season presser and he looked worn out already. I want to believe as much as the next guy but all the signs are pointing to a looong season. It was pretty obvious our OL stunk but you see how he deflecting the OL with the DL? The DL actually was pushing the 1 st two drives but Ben reading that he have 1 on 1 with a rookie D Harris on A Brown burned us (how can you pressure a qb if held the ball for less than 2 seconds) then P J Williams. Give me a f***** break. I haven't seen them develop one rookie since M Colston. Breaux was not a rookie so don't even mention him. Cooks still questionable. Ingram, how can he fully develop with that OL?

08-27-2016, 05:15 PM	#70
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by halloween 65 If he gets fired I would get rid of all his cronies to. Bill Cowher would be my choice as HC. i'd like a tough guy like Bill, but I don't think Bill is coming back.

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