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dizzle88 09-27-2016 05:39 AM

Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?
 
So, an 0-3 start

Two back to back 7-9 seasons, defense is worse than last year in terms of points allowed and Brees is once again having to try to score every possession.

Payton not getting the team prepared, bad drafts and a failure to stick to schemes (drafting 3-4 players and then switching to a 4-3) has finally caught up with us.

Injuries have played a part but cannot be blamed alone, this team is 4-11 in the last 15 home games!!

Payton has kept Darymple (strength and conditioning coach), Vitt, McMahon, Dennis Allen and Bill Johnson all in a job when it's obvious that they all suck!!

Nothing would make me happier than for Payton to be handed his leaving papers, has anyone changed their mind from when this thread was originally posted by myself?

neugey 09-27-2016 07:32 AM

Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 721586)
So, an 0-3 start

Two back to back 7-9 seasons, defense is worse than last year in terms of points allowed and Brees is once again having to try to score every possession.

Payton not getting the team prepared, bad drafts and a failure to stick to schemes (drafting 3-4 players and then switching to a 4-3) has finally caught up with us.

Injuries have played a part but cannot be blamed alone, this team is 4-11 in the last 15 home games!!

Payton has kept Darymple (strength and conditioning coach), Vitt, McMahon, Dennis Allen and Bill Johnson all in a job when it's obvious that they all suck!!

Nothing would make me happier than for Payton to be handed his leaving papers, has anyone changed their mind from when this thread was originally posted by myself?

I think it's almost certain now that Payton has lost the team. But this organization might not have the guts to push the reset button on Payton and his staff unless we finish in the 0-5 win range. Finish in the 6-8 win range and then it's likely Payton will get a pass because of the injuries.

We are a very bad 0-3 ... Brees is in top form and looking like far and away the most accurate QB in the league the way Marino once did. It is hard to lose with QB play like this, but somehow it is happening.

dizzle88 09-27-2016 07:39 AM

Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?
 
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 721592)
I think it's almost certain now that Payton has lost the team. But this organization might not have the guts to push the reset button on Payton and his staff unless we finish in the 0-5 win range. Finish in the 6-8 win range and then it's likely Payton will get a pass because of the injuries.

We are a very bad 0-3 ... Brees is in top form and looking like far and away the most accurate QB in the league the way Marino once did. It is hard to lose with QB play like this, but somehow it is happening.

Absolutely agree!

If we end up picking top 5 in the draft, I hope Payton and his cronies are gone by then so they don't screw them up.

I too, don't know if management are brave enough to do the correct thing!

darksoul35 09-27-2016 09:09 AM

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The defense was looking a lot better before all the injuries. We basically had a high school team out there. I understand everyone being upset but we our defense has had more injuries in the first 3 weeks than most teams have all year.

captainshawn 09-27-2016 10:12 AM

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Yes his job is safe and it should be.

dizzle88 09-27-2016 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by captainshawn (Post 721631)
Yes his job is safe and it should be.

This is no way meant to be condescending, but please elaborate as to why his job should be safe?

saintfan 09-27-2016 12:32 PM

Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 721633)
This is no way meant to be condescending, but please elaborate as to why his job should be safe?

Because he's not playing with anywhere near the team he thought he'd be playing with.

You don't 'coach up' a guy who's been in the league 4 or 5 years and was on the street until you called because you have nowhere else to turn.

You don't throw an undrafted rookie free agent up against two of the best wide receivers in the league, in back-to-back weeks, because you want to.

You honor what's left on his contract and you give the man an opportunity to correct the problems, hopefully with relatively healthy players, a luxury he has not had lately.

That's my .02

CheramieIII 09-27-2016 12:35 PM

Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?
 
I don't see us beating anyone at this point. Payton will stay no matter what. He did get us a Superbowl win. Something some of us old timers never thought would happen in our life time.

Rell&Gold 09-27-2016 01:05 PM

Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?
 
Injuries Injuries Injuries....If we were 100% healthy no doubt in my mind we are at least 2-2 after the first 4

lee909 09-27-2016 01:10 PM

Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?
 
Im not sure if its time or not.
I would like to see him being a coach with somebody else doing the personnel work before they replaced him. Wether he would agree is another thing.

Saying its not fair to judge because of injuries is wrong imo. He constructed a roster that is lost because he lost 2 members of the secondary snd one that had no depth on the defensive line.


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