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Danno 09-27-2016 01:11 PM

Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?
 
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 721682)
Injuries Injuries Injuries....If we were 100% healthy no doubt in my mind we are at least 2-2 after the first 4

I'm convinced that if we just had an ordinary amount of injuries we'd be 3-1, maybe 4-0 at the break.

I doubt any team has suffered even half of the key injuries that we have.

dizzle88 09-27-2016 01:14 PM

Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 721686)
I'm convinced that if we just had an ordinary amount of injuries we'd be 3-1, maybe 4-0 at the break.

I doubt any team has suffered even half of the key injuries that we have.

Surely Payton needs to recognise this, Strength and conditioning has been lackluster for years and he just brushes it under the carpet.

Danno 09-27-2016 01:18 PM

Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 721688)
Surely Payton needs to recognise this, Strength and conditioning has been lackluster for years and he just brushes it under the carpet.

I don't know what the reason is, but excessive injuries continue to happen to us year after year.

Every team has a few, but damn we seem to have a ton more than others.

Breaux
PJWilliams
Vaccaro
Ellerbe
Davison
Armstead
Snead

Hooman
Lewis
Swann
Wilson
Kikaha
Rankins
Sanford
Hill

Starters bolded

dizzle88 09-27-2016 01:24 PM

Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 721689)
I don't know what the reason is, but excessive injuries continue to happen to us year after year.

Every team has a few, but damn we seem to have a ton more than others.

Breaux
PJWilliams
Vaccaro
Ellerbe
Davison
Armstead
Snead

Hooman
Lewis
Swann
Wilson
Kikaha
Rankins
Sanford
Hill

Starters bolded

When Payton came back from his suspension and had lost weight, didn't he say he had brought crossfit in with him?

I'm no gym rat, but I've heard crossfit is complete nonsense, if Payton is making our players do that in the weight room then no wonder they are getting injured.

CharityMike 09-27-2016 02:06 PM

Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 721686)
I'm convinced that if we just had an ordinary amount of injuries we'd be 3-1, maybe 4-0 at the break.

I doubt any team has suffered even half of the key injuries that we have.

San Diego has 15 players on IR. Blatimore has 11 on IR.

dizzle88 09-27-2016 02:39 PM

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People all the time say that preseason doesn't matter

Two winless preseasons and we are showing no signs of improving in the regular season.

We are not a tough team and we are undisciplined, the cut back lane was wide open last night, Freeman only had to cut back and he had atleast 25 yards if not more.

K Major 09-27-2016 03:03 PM

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Kind of surprised no one is really bashing the special teams play over the last 3 weeks.

Miscues in Oakland (missed FG/giving them a short field & score), miscues in NY (blocked fg attempt and subsequent TD by the Giants) & Atlanta (Harris collides with TommyLee resulting in a turnover & momentum shift).

Poor special teams & mental breakdowns have cost us dearly ... hence 0-3.

CharityMike 09-27-2016 03:06 PM

Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 721706)
Kind of surprised no one is really bashing the special teams play over the last 3 weeks.

Miscues in Oakland (missed FG/giving them a short field & score), miscues in NY (blocked fg attempt and subsequent TD by the Giants) & Atlanta (Harris collides with TommyLee resulting in a turnover & momentum shift).

Poor special teams & mental breakdowns have cost us dearly ... hence 0-3.

Its definitely part of the problem but we are screwed because we can't overcome 1 mistake in a game.

Danno 09-27-2016 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 721695)
San Diego has 15 players on IR. Blatimore has 11 on IR.

Were they all starters?

Baltimore, same starting 11 on defense since week 1.

CharityMike 09-27-2016 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 721708)
Were they all starters?

Baltimore, same starting 11 on defense since week 1.


Never specified what side they play on. You said you doubt any teams have as many significant players hurt as us. Thats false. I didnt even mention Vikings. Imagine if we lost Brees and Ingram for the year.

Saints have 13 on IR. Of that 8 are defensive players. Of that 5 are starters. Breaux, PJ Williams, Swann, Kikaha and Rankins. I am counting Breux as being on IR cause he would be if not for putting Rankins on it and us wanting both of them to be back this year.


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