Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?
 

I've just been thinking today about where our team is headed, sure preseason cannot tell us where this team will go this season, we can only wait and see.

2014 Preseason = 0 and 4

2015 preseason = 0 and 4

Both of those years, we started the regular season 0-4 and finished 7-9, simple not good enough when the division was not exactly loaded with talent.

So, is Sean Paytons job at risk if we start on a losing streak or miss the playoffs? I think it has to be, it would be 3 years of missing the playoffs and 5 losing seasons out of Paytons 10.

As much as I loved beating the falcons last year, I felt kind of embarrassed that Sean Payton sprinted onto the field cheering about our 7th win, with it being the last game of season!

Couple that together with many coaches who year after year fail at their job, mainly the strength and conditioning as we seem to always be the most injured roster throughout the NFL.

I personally think SP does not finish his contract, if you look at him talking to the media after the preseason losses, he looks exhausted all the time and like he just doesn't care anymore. I miss the guy that would make sure no player was comfortable whilst underperforming, a guy that would deal the finishing strike when a team was on it's heels.

What do you all think?

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Probably
It shouldn't be though

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I think he has a couple more years especially after that extension.

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Yes Benson is loyal almost to a fualt

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Tell me who's out there in unemployed coach land who's better then Sean.

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You never know, SP was just an OC before we signed him.

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If our D stinks again the only way I see him being able to stay if he gets rid of the good ole boys and finds a better D staff but I do like our DB coach.

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Its not just about that.
Coaches can only last so long before things go stale snd i think the past 3-4 years have been very stale in all departments. You can still respect everything a coach has done ehile thinking if things dont quickly turn round a change is needed

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I don't think there is a shot in hell that Payton doesn't at least finish out his current contract.

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You think Payton doesn't know this? That's why he went back to square one this year. He has treated this off-season just like 2006. That theme has been repeated over and over. There are only three players left from the 2009 roster. To that vast majority of the current roster Payton is a fresh new face.

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1-15 to 5-11 could do it.

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Some players have changed but is it the same scheme on offense?

Very little has changed. The dump off passes to Thomas and Sproles and getting blown up quickly.

Dont give me the offense is top 5 either.
It is in yards but in points scored its been poor in at least 3 out the past 5 years.


Im not saying its over but another bad year and it should be



I also dont see any changes till the issues with ownership is sorted.

Loomis runs on far too long a leash

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Only way he is gone is if he is traded. I would be all for it.

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Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?

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Anyone who says there is no way Payton doesn't finish his contract, is fooling themselves. If he's winning, everybody stays happy and stays put.

If you've watched one year of football, you know that a contract means as much as a cracker jack ring. He's already missed the playoffs two years in a row. With now another five years on his deal, there's no way he gets five years of losing. He has to win. It's the same for every coach. Winning a Super Bowl gave him some extra slack, but that has never proven to make any coach invincible.

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We're not getting the Sean we need. He's just not the same. Either way we're screwed if this season does not pan out.

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SP's ego would not be able to handle the other egos in other cities. He would fold quick.

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Looks like we got another candidate for stupidest question on this board

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How is it the stupidest question?

Are you satisfied missing the playoffs consistently?

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He isn't going anywhere regardless of record, like already said: who's out there that's better?

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I dont see it as a stupid question. Or disrespectful. The team has been poor barring one year since 2011. We cant keep blaming the bountygate nonsense and loosing picks.

Poor picks,poor contracts,too many DC. Drafting for s scheme,blowing it up to go 3-4 then blowing that up a year or so later to go bsck to 4-3 its a mess. And for me it starts from the very top with Mr Benson. His family issues and age are now having a effect on the running of the team. There is no pressure on Loomis or Psyton from the top. A poor season and something needs to change

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So if we missed the playoffs or even had a disastrous 3-13 type season, you'd be confident in paytons ability?

How can a head coach keep his job regardless of the record he finishes with?

As for the "who's out there" we found SP when he was an offensive coordinator, we could find another.

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I am not sure that is a fair statement to say that Benson's family issues are affecting the team. Loomis and Payton have responsibilities specific to the team from a talent and evaluation perspective.

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Considering only 12 teams out of 32 teams in the entire NFL make the playoffs, we're far from the only ones who didn't make it...and one of those teams went 15-1, in our own division.

Sure, we're pretty spoiled, but it's Payton and Brees that spoiled us. You can change coaches if you want, but there's always a chance you get WORSE instead of better. Then what? It takes time, and when big gambles don't pay off, it takes a while to dig back out of that hole. We're closer to getting better than getting worse. Trust me.

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Ok wiseguy...

who do you think will win the south this year?

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I can tell you who won't win the south this year HALO.....

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Yes they are but wouldn't you say a owner more hands on would be starting to put pressure on now. Im not saying you want a Jerry Jones type but somebody who is giving Loomis and Payton the space to do their job but if things are going badly multiple years will make changes if needed.

Now obviously i dont know how much Mr Benson is in control its all guesswork

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yes because of the new contract, should it be....IDT so

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unfortunately he is working at the U of Michigan right now

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The Rams are asking similar questions about Jeff Fisher.

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IDT scheme has crap to do with it...I don't care what the scheme is if you have men in your backfield you're going to lose yards or at the very least not gain any

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Jeff 'King of 8-8' Fisher

The man is a master of keeping ambition to a minimum. That team should be far better than it is,especially with that defense.

Hsving said that as bad of some of Loomis contracts are giving Tavin Austin 4 years 42million with 30 million guaranteed is pure madness

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The Tavon Austin contract is ludicrous, he's getting 10mil more than we gave Colston.

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I think Fisher is farther out from a SuperBowl appearance and sub.500 season than Sean Payton. Just saying, not being critical but just looked it up. LA should definitely be looking at Fisher this year. But I totally get your drift.

Jeff Fisher
1999 SuperBowl APPEARANCE/LOSS
2008 last playoff APPEARANCE
2008 last winning season with Tennessee

Sean Payton
2009 SuperBowl APPEARANCE/WIN!!!!
2013 last playoff APPEARANCE
2013 last winning season with Saints

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Based on the Preseason and the number of Superbowls....

Payton is an idiot.


After 2016... NOBODY IS SAFE... Brees, Loomis or Payton....

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I dont think anyone is saying he is. Im certainly not and no matter what criticism i make of him or Loomis i respect what they have done.

But the Superbowl was a 6 years back now and there hasnt been a good team on the field dince 2011.

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The 2013 team wasn't good?

I will say the offense is becoming more concerning over time, I attribute most of this due to the lack of off-season focus on the O-line. In the years that our offense was considered unmatched we had a offensive line that was pro-bowl worthy. We have not built/had a good o-line since 2013. People have aged and we have failed to address it with any new additions through the draft or free agency. Ireland is the best thing to happen to this team in years, I think the last few drafts have yielded favorable results for the defense. The attention needs to be turned to the O-line now, I believe Payton knows they made a mistake waiting to address it.

Long story short, Payton's season, this team's season, will depend on the offensive line and it's ability to keep Brees out of danger. For once the defense might be respectable.

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I think alot of cracks were papered ober in 13. A fair few wins were very slim and some of the defeats bad,with some really bad playcalling late (pats) got rin over by the Jets and Rams. Obviosly 11-5 is good but i think the team was already on a diwnward spiral

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And a lot of teams who don't make it fire their coaches. When you have a Super Bowl win on your resume, you get a few mulligans. But those mulligans are limited. I'm not trying to predict catastrophe. But as the question posed was is his job safe if we miss the playoffs, I think the pressure tightens significantly if that does happen.

Sure you could get worse. But that's the risk you have to take sometimes.