You think Payton doesn't know this? That's why he went back to square one this year. He has treated this off-season just like 2006. That theme has been repeated over and over. There are only three players left from the 2009 roster. To that vast majority of the current roster Payton is a fresh new face.

Some players have changed but is it the same scheme on offense?

Very little has changed. The dump off passes to Thomas and Sproles and getting blown up quickly.

Dont give me the offense is top 5 either.
It is in yards but in points scored its been poor in at least 3 out the past 5 years.


Im not saying its over but another bad year and it should be



I also dont see any changes till the issues with ownership is sorted.

Loomis runs on far too long a leash