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WillSaints81 09-06-2016 06:26 PM

Re: Saints & Brees re-start contract negotiations
 
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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 716587)
Good hell man. That's a hell of a negative stance on stuff. I get being realistic, but I don't think "fluke" is the word that I'd choose to describe the Saints.

In terms of eras we are. We have one serious contention era under our belt, the current one(or the better half). It's not me saying this it's others on here acting like when Brees is done, we won't contend anymore at this level.

WillSaints81 09-06-2016 06:35 PM

Re: Saints & Brees re-start contract negotiations
 
I take it you people don't think Carr will be elite. Luck, Wilson, Carr three QBs drafted in three years. Also add Dalton and his name I will not say and that's five QBs drafted in four years. Mariotta is gonna be good as well. He is just on the wrong team. It is all about the system more than the QB. There has been a NFL ready QB in the draft every other year at least. I guess you believe Payton will leave when Brees is done or whatever. We'll see. He won't survive anywhere else as a HC.

If CK and Flacco can go to a sb, you don't have an elite qb.

AsylumGuido 09-06-2016 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 716762)
I take it you people don't think Carr will be elite. Luck, Wilson, Carr three QBs drafted in three years. Also add Dalton and his name I will not say and that's five QBs drafted in four years. Mariotta is gonna be good as well. He is just on the wrong team. It is all about the system more than the QB. There has been a NFL ready QB in the draft every other year at least. I guess you believe Payton will leave when Brees is done or whatever. We'll see. He won't survive anywhere else as a HC.

If CK and Flacco can go to a sb, you don't have an elite qb.

You can't read this, but none of those QB's you named would I rather have in place of Brees right now. None of those have proved anything for anywhere near as long as Brees.

lee909 09-06-2016 07:25 PM

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I agree i wouldn't either and as i said yesterday 25ml a year on th face of it is fine. But its not only about if they are better. I'd take Wilson or Luck now on 25ml a year because the drop off isnt huge,might ot be a drop off at all in a year or two. Dalton,no wouldn't touch him too expensive for what he offers. Carr is interesting(Who knows he could even hit FA in a couple of years if he isnt happy in Oakland) but if you could have traded them at the start of FA youd have had a good youg QB and a additioal 20ml in cap space then you are talking is it better to have Brees or Carr,Evan Mathis,Alex Boone,Charles Johnson and Bruce Irvin

I obviously not saying they all would have joined and its playing fantasy GM to a point but is does give you a question to answer.

I said yesterday 25ml for Brees is more than a fair price,but im obviously worried about how many years your are locked in for at his age,especially with a creaky line. We saw first hand against the Vikings in 09 what can happen when you put a great QB aging behind a creaky line

blackangold 09-06-2016 07:27 PM

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PAY THE MAN... 25m a year is a no brainer!

|Mitch| 09-06-2016 08:18 PM

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lee909 09-06-2016 08:18 PM

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Just about to post that
Looks like it will get done

|Mitch| 09-06-2016 08:27 PM

Re: Saints & Brees re-start contract negotiations
 
Could possibly save 5-10 million in cap space...

lee909 09-06-2016 08:31 PM

Re: Saints & Brees re-start contract negotiations
 
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 716799)
Could possibly save 5-10 million in cap space...

Unless they get a guard it would be better taking that hit now rather than kicking it down the road.

|Mitch| 09-06-2016 08:37 PM

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Something has to be in the works; all a sudden get the Brees done to save cap and cut Finnegan to save even more...


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