PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.'

Danno · 09-08-2016, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Our starters last year were Armstead, Kelemete/Lelito, Unger, Evans and Strief.

Our projected starters for week 1 are Armstead, Peat, Unger Evans and Strief.

What haven't I seen now?

An offense ranked outside the top 5?

saintshrimp · 09-08-2016, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

An offense ranked outside the top 5?

That top 5 offense don't mean crap when you sitting home in Jan. With s losing record

Danno · 09-08-2016, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

That top 5 offense don't mean crap when you sitting home in Jan. With s losing record

How exactly is that the Offenses problem? I'm not following you, unless you're agreeing with me that the offense isn't the problem. I didn't read every post in this thread.

I think its pretty clear our main problem has been fielding one of the worst defenses in NFL history for the past several years.

burningmetal · 09-08-2016, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

An offense ranked outside the top 5?

Danno, I don't know how many times we have to have this argument on here. Throwing the ball 50 times a game will always yield big yards. But it also leads to interceptions and sacks/sack fumbles. And at the end of the day we aren't putting up more than 25 a game, which is about average for a half decent offense now. The offensive ranking is extremely hollow.

The question was about the offensive line, not where we rank in yards.

The defense rightfully takes a lot of the blame. There have been ten thousand threads about that. This team has been bottom of the league in rushing, gives up tons of pressures, and just doesn't sustain enough drives, particularly in the biggest games. They can still feast when going against defenses ranked in the lower half.

Halo · 09-08-2016, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Danno, I don't know how many times we have to have this argument on here. Throwing the ball 50 times a game will always yield big yards. But it also leads to interceptions and sacks/sack fumbles. And at the end of the day we aren't putting up more than 25 a game, which is about average for a half decent offense now. The offensive ranking is extremely hollow.

The question was about the offensive line, not where we rank in yards.

The defense rightfully takes a lot of the blame. There have been ten thousand threads about that. This team has been bottom of the league in rushing, gives up tons of pressures, and just doesn't sustain enough drives, particularly in the biggest games. They can still feast when going against defenses ranked in the lower half.

All ya'll on all sides of the arguments can blame Brees, Offense, too many yard, lack of points, better offensive line, suck offensive line, whatever --- in the end I blame Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis. They have had a lot of talent in recent years ---

Wasted draft picks (Greyson is typical, could have had more o-line).
Playcall gets too ambitious.
Too quick to pass, not enough mix of pass and run.
Can't beat teams who smack us in the face.

That said, I hope I'm wrong and I hope we go all the way and shut my chubby azz up!

spkb25 · 09-08-2016, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

All ya'll on all sides of the arguments can blame Brees, Offense, too many yard, lack of points, better offensive line, suck offensive line, whatever --- in the end I blame Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis. They have had a lot of talent in recent years ---
Wasted draft picks (Greyson is typical, could have had more o-line).

Playcall gets too ambitious.

Too quick to pass, not enough mix of pass and run.

Can't beat teams who smack us in the face.

That said, I hope I'm wrong and I hope we go all the way and shut my chubby azz up!

yep, look at the dead money ect.

AsylumGuido · 09-08-2016, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

yep, look at the dead money ect.

Nope. Nothing I can do about that so I ignore it.

spkb25 · 09-08-2016, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Nope. Nothing I can do about that so I ignore it.

Oh go post that to Halo, he was talking about the poor decisions by Loom and SP. I agreed with him, so go ahead and go post to him if you disagree

saintshrimp · 09-08-2016, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

All ya'll on all sides of the arguments can blame Brees, Offense, too many yard, lack of points, better offensive line, suck offensive line, whatever --- in the end I blame Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis. They have had a lot of talent in recent years ---
Wasted draft picks (Greyson is typical, could have had more o-line).

Playcall gets too ambitious.

Too quick to pass, not enough mix of pass and run.

Can't beat teams who smack us in the face.

That said, I hope I'm wrong and I hope we go all the way and shut my chubby azz up!

I will agree whole heartedly with that.Sean and Mickey are a lot to blame here no question. I feel they should be on the hot seat myself

burningmetal · 09-08-2016, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

All ya'll on all sides of the arguments can blame Brees, Offense, too many yard, lack of points, better offensive line, suck offensive line, whatever --- in the end I blame Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis. They have had a lot of talent in recent years ---
Wasted draft picks (Greyson is typical, could have had more o-line).

Playcall gets too ambitious.

Too quick to pass, not enough mix of pass and run.

Can't beat teams who smack us in the face.

That said, I hope I'm wrong and I hope we go all the way and shut my chubby azz up!

I blame those guys all the time. Right now I'm commenting on players, but there's no question I think the staff has dropped the ball. But, you know, some posters don't want to hear that either. It's a big love fest until it isn't. I can't figure it out.

09-08-2016, 06:52 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,759	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by burningmetal Our starters last year were Armstead, Kelemete/Lelito, Unger, Evans and Strief. Our projected starters for week 1 are Armstead, Peat, Unger Evans and Strief. What haven't I seen now? An offense ranked outside the top 5? SaintFanInATLHELL and AsylumGuido like this.

09-08-2016, 06:54 PM	#2
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by Danno An offense ranked outside the top 5? That top 5 offense don't mean crap when you sitting home in Jan. With s losing record

09-08-2016, 07:00 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,759	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by saintshrimp That top 5 offense don't mean crap when you sitting home in Jan. With s losing record How exactly is that the Offenses problem? I'm not following you, unless you're agreeing with me that the offense isn't the problem. I didn't read every post in this thread. I think its pretty clear our main problem has been fielding one of the worst defenses in NFL history for the past several years. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

09-08-2016, 07:02 PM	#4
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by Danno An offense ranked outside the top 5? Danno, I don't know how many times we have to have this argument on here. Throwing the ball 50 times a game will always yield big yards. But it also leads to interceptions and sacks/sack fumbles. And at the end of the day we aren't putting up more than 25 a game, which is about average for a half decent offense now. The offensive ranking is extremely hollow. The question was about the offensive line, not where we rank in yards. The defense rightfully takes a lot of the blame. There have been ten thousand threads about that. This team has been bottom of the league in rushing, gives up tons of pressures, and just doesn't sustain enough drives, particularly in the biggest games. They can still feast when going against defenses ranked in the lower half. K Major likes this.
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09-08-2016, 07:06 PM	#5
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,992 Blog Entries: 45	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by burningmetal Danno, I don't know how many times we have to have this argument on here. Throwing the ball 50 times a game will always yield big yards. But it also leads to interceptions and sacks/sack fumbles. And at the end of the day we aren't putting up more than 25 a game, which is about average for a half decent offense now. The offensive ranking is extremely hollow. The question was about the offensive line, not where we rank in yards. The defense rightfully takes a lot of the blame. There have been ten thousand threads about that. This team has been bottom of the league in rushing, gives up tons of pressures, and just doesn't sustain enough drives, particularly in the biggest games. They can still feast when going against defenses ranked in the lower half. All ya'll on all sides of the arguments can blame Brees, Offense, too many yard, lack of points, better offensive line, suck offensive line, whatever --- in the end I blame Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis. They have had a lot of talent in recent years --- Wasted draft picks (Greyson is typical, could have had more o-line). Playcall gets too ambitious. Too quick to pass, not enough mix of pass and run. Can't beat teams who smack us in the face. That said, I hope I'm wrong and I hope we go all the way and shut my chubby azz up! jeanpierre likes this.
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09-08-2016, 07:09 PM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by Halo All ya'll on all sides of the arguments can blame Brees, Offense, too many yard, lack of points, better offensive line, suck offensive line, whatever --- in the end I blame Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis. They have had a lot of talent in recent years --- Wasted draft picks (Greyson is typical, could have had more o-line). Playcall gets too ambitious. Too quick to pass, not enough mix of pass and run. Can't beat teams who smack us in the face. That said, I hope I'm wrong and I hope we go all the way and shut my chubby azz up! yep, look at the dead money ect.

09-08-2016, 07:11 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,898	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by spkb25 yep, look at the dead money ect. Nope. Nothing I can do about that so I ignore it.

09-08-2016, 09:28 PM	#8
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Nope. Nothing I can do about that so I ignore it. Oh go post that to Halo, he was talking about the poor decisions by Loom and SP. I agreed with him, so go ahead and go post to him if you disagree

09-08-2016, 07:12 PM	#9
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by Halo All ya'll on all sides of the arguments can blame Brees, Offense, too many yard, lack of points, better offensive line, suck offensive line, whatever --- in the end I blame Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis. They have had a lot of talent in recent years --- Wasted draft picks (Greyson is typical, could have had more o-line). Playcall gets too ambitious. Too quick to pass, not enough mix of pass and run. Can't beat teams who smack us in the face. That said, I hope I'm wrong and I hope we go all the way and shut my chubby azz up! I will agree whole heartedly with that.Sean and Mickey are a lot to blame here no question. I feel they should be on the hot seat myself Halo likes this.

09-08-2016, 07:16 PM	#10
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by Halo All ya'll on all sides of the arguments can blame Brees, Offense, too many yard, lack of points, better offensive line, suck offensive line, whatever --- in the end I blame Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis. They have had a lot of talent in recent years --- Wasted draft picks (Greyson is typical, could have had more o-line). Playcall gets too ambitious. Too quick to pass, not enough mix of pass and run. Can't beat teams who smack us in the face. That said, I hope I'm wrong and I hope we go all the way and shut my chubby azz up! I blame those guys all the time. Right now I'm commenting on players, but there's no question I think the staff has dropped the ball. But, you know, some posters don't want to hear that either. It's a big love fest until it isn't. I can't figure it out.

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