Saints release QB Garrett Grayson, third-round pick in 2015.

CheramieIII · 09-07-2016, 04:58 PM

The Evans signing is a very good one. He has experience with the team and will be even more motivated to get his old spot back. Unger, Strief and Evans can anchor the line we'll be in for a lot of offense. I see the defense being a lot better than 45 touchdowns!

hagan714 · 09-07-2016, 05:06 PM

Oh goodie I was not crazy and a QB is needed still. With QBs in such high demand I will be surprised if he clears. If he does I would be alarmed.

2017? anyone?

the next Blake Bortles or Carson Wentz.??
Mitch Leidner Minnesota - 25th pick in the 1st? McShay? Say what???
Brady Gustafson, Montana

oppsss OG need is alive and well also geshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

neugey · 09-07-2016, 05:06 PM

Between this news and Brees extension, Grayson must really be buns.

AsylumGuido · 09-07-2016, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Oh goodie I was not crazy and a QB is needed still. With QBs in such high demand I will be surprised if he clears. If he does I would be alarmed.

2017? anyone?

the next Blake Bortles or Carson Wentz.??
Mitch Leidner Minnesota - 25th pick in the 1st? McShay? Say what???
Brady Gustafson, Montana

oppsss OG need is alive and well also geshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I have a feeling Brees and Loomis will keep doing this same one year extension deal until Brees finally retires. Brees even jokingly said something about one year deals in his press conference. Here hoping that Brees can play at a high level until he is 45 like he said he plans to do.

Lifer · 09-07-2016, 05:17 PM

Hope Evans can stay healthy and give us one more good year. Kind of scary that we're filling holes with players better teams don't want...but am glad Evans will probably end his career as a Saint. He has been a great one!
The Grayson release is yet another poor talent decision by the Saints. Too many draft picks wasted on players who don't make the team, too much dead money, too many consistently poor free agent decisions have left the Saints woefully short of true "difference makers".

neugey · 09-07-2016, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I have a feeling Brees and Loomis will keep doing this same one year extension deal until Brees finally retires. Brees even jokingly said something about one year deals in his press conference. Here hoping that Brees can play at a high level until he is 45 like he said he plans to do.

Like the Lakers did with Kobe.

AsylumGuido · 09-07-2016, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Lifer

Hope Evans can stay healthy and give us one more good year. Kind of scary that we're filling holes with players better teams don't want...but am glad Evans will probably end his career as a Saint. He has been a great one!
The Grayson release is yet another poor talent decision by the Saints. Too many draft picks wasted on players who don't make the team, too much dead money, too many consistently poor free agent decisions have left the Saints woefully short of true "difference makers".

I was listening to Bill Polian, you know the Hall of Fame GM, on NFL Radio a couple of weeks ago and he said that if you can get four players that can make a roster for a few years out of seven picks you have done well drafting. Also, as I mentioned earlier, only one in ten QB's drafted ever make it as a backup. There is logic in drafting a QB every year to hopefully get the one that can actually make it every six or seven years.

AsylumGuido · 09-07-2016, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Like the Lakers did with Kobe.

It makes sense. Brees also added again that he plans to spend the rest of his playing career as a Saints so that means another contract is a must, at least.

Danno · 09-07-2016, 06:12 PM

Question...

Does anyone think we're gonna find Brees' replacement by NOT drafting a QB prospect?

Grayson was worth a shot, but since about 1 out of every 50 QB's drafted don't become elite, should we stop drafting QB's?

BTW, I'd guess that 1 out of every 7,000 QB's not drafted become elite.

I'm of the opinion you draft a QB at a minimum of every other year until you get that elite guy, unless you already have a young elite QB to man the spot for the next 5 or 6 years.

burningmetal · 09-07-2016, 06:28 PM

I hated the idea of drafting him where they did. To me, it makes more sense to either go all in and draft one in the first round, if you are trying to prepare for the future, or just keep taking QB's late in the draft every year or two and see if you can find a diamond in the rough.

Taking one in the third is like saying you want a QB, but you don't, but you do. Sure, you could hit a home run, but you could just as easily do so with a 6th round pick. The vast majority of the top QB's are first rounders or high second round. It just isn't a position to screw around with in the middle rounds.

09-07-2016, 04:58 PM	#41
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints release QB Garrett Grayson, third-round pick in 2015. The Evans signing is a very good one. He has experience with the team and will be even more motivated to get his old spot back. Unger, Strief and Evans can anchor the line we'll be in for a lot of offense. I see the defense being a lot better than 45 touchdowns!

09-07-2016, 05:06 PM	#42
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints release QB Garrett Grayson, third-round pick in 2015. Oh goodie I was not crazy and a QB is needed still. With QBs in such high demand I will be surprised if he clears. If he does I would be alarmed. 2017? anyone? the next Blake Bortles or Carson Wentz.?? Mitch Leidner Minnesota - 25th pick in the 1st? McShay? Say what??? Brady Gustafson, Montana oppsss OG need is alive and well also geshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

09-07-2016, 05:06 PM	#43
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,590 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints release QB Garrett Grayson, third-round pick in 2015. Between this news and Brees extension, Grayson must really be buns.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Saints release QB Garrett Grayson, third-round pick in 2015. Originally Posted by hagan714 Oh goodie I was not crazy and a QB is needed still. With QBs in such high demand I will be surprised if he clears. If he does I would be alarmed. 2017? anyone? the next Blake Bortles or Carson Wentz.?? Mitch Leidner Minnesota - 25th pick in the 1st? McShay? Say what??? Brady Gustafson, Montana oppsss OG need is alive and well also geshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I have a feeling Brees and Loomis will keep doing this same one year extension deal until Brees finally retires. Brees even jokingly said something about one year deals in his press conference. Here hoping that Brees can play at a high level until he is 45 like he said he plans to do.

09-07-2016, 05:17 PM	#45
Lifer Registered Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 69	Re: Saints release QB Garrett Grayson, third-round pick in 2015. Hope Evans can stay healthy and give us one more good year. Kind of scary that we're filling holes with players better teams don't want...but am glad Evans will probably end his career as a Saint. He has been a great one! The Grayson release is yet another poor talent decision by the Saints. Too many draft picks wasted on players who don't make the team, too much dead money, too many consistently poor free agent decisions have left the Saints woefully short of true "difference makers". hagan714 and darksoul35 like this.
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09-07-2016, 05:22 PM	#46
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,590 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints release QB Garrett Grayson, third-round pick in 2015. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I have a feeling Brees and Loomis will keep doing this same one year extension deal until Brees finally retires. Brees even jokingly said something about one year deals in his press conference. Here hoping that Brees can play at a high level until he is 45 like he said he plans to do. Like the Lakers did with Kobe.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Saints release QB Garrett Grayson, third-round pick in 2015. Originally Posted by Lifer Hope Evans can stay healthy and give us one more good year. Kind of scary that we're filling holes with players better teams don't want...but am glad Evans will probably end his career as a Saint. He has been a great one! The Grayson release is yet another poor talent decision by the Saints. Too many draft picks wasted on players who don't make the team, too much dead money, too many consistently poor free agent decisions have left the Saints woefully short of true "difference makers". I was listening to Bill Polian, you know the Hall of Fame GM, on NFL Radio a couple of weeks ago and he said that if you can get four players that can make a roster for a few years out of seven picks you have done well drafting. Also, as I mentioned earlier, only one in ten QB's drafted ever make it as a backup. There is logic in drafting a QB every year to hopefully get the one that can actually make it every six or seven years.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Saints release QB Garrett Grayson, third-round pick in 2015. Originally Posted by neugey Like the Lakers did with Kobe. It makes sense. Brees also added again that he plans to spend the rest of his playing career as a Saints so that means another contract is a must, at least.

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Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Saints release QB Garrett Grayson, third-round pick in 2015. Question... Does anyone think we're gonna find Brees' replacement by NOT drafting a QB prospect? Grayson was worth a shot, but since about 1 out of every 50 QB's drafted don't become elite, should we stop drafting QB's? BTW, I'd guess that 1 out of every 7,000 QB's not drafted become elite. I'm of the opinion you draft a QB at a minimum of every other year until you get that elite guy, unless you already have a young elite QB to man the spot for the next 5 or 6 years.

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