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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno Two thirds of the defense is out. What did you expect? Injuries make it harder, we all get it. But those are still supposed to be professionals out there. So to answer your question, the expectation ...

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Old 09-27-2016, 12:50 AM   #1
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Two thirds of the defense is out. What did you expect?
Injuries make it harder, we all get it. But those are still supposed to be professionals out there. So to answer your question, the expectation is that you put up SOME kind of resistance.

They managed to keep the Giants out of the endzone last week. They bent a ton, but didn't break, and we all applauded them for it. Then they come home for a prime time game against a team they have owned, and they do absolutely nothing to stop that team.

The D-line can't make any excuses. They are missing a player (Rankins) who no one even knows yet how good he is. There was supposed to be an improved pass rush, and it just hasn't happened.

No question the injuries hurt bad. But you can't be non competitive.
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Injuries make it harder, we all get it. But those are still supposed to be professionals out there.
Crawley, undrafted from Colorado, may be a professional. He is not a professional #1 Corner. He's played well, but you get my point.

Not only are these guys being asked to do more than their skills allow, they've had no time to play together to figure out how and where the next guy sucks and needs help.

I'm proud of them for showing up and trying. Seriously.

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In a few very bad moments, tonight reminded me most of last season's debacle. 4th and 1 at midfield and none of our defenders is watching the open side of the field. The walk-in touchdown. Byrd flailing to the ground in the open field.
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Our defense is hurt. I can't fuss about coaching when they are playing a bunch of scabs. I gotta give him a pass this year.
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Our defense is hurt. I can't fuss about coaching when they are playing a bunch of scabs. I gotta give him a pass this year.
Tom Benson? Is that you?

Two straight 7-9 seasons, I know lets extend him 5 years, it's not like we haven't been close to a superbowl in 6 years or anything....lol
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Tom Benson? Is that you?

Two straight 7-9 seasons, I know lets extend him 5 years, it's not like we haven't been close to a superbowl in 6 years or anything....lol
Let me clairfy, I'm giving the D across the board a pass. We are starting our #5 and #6 cb's. We lost our starting DE and DT. I can not blame Allen for the play of backups in every position.
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Banged up defense gets a pass, albeit a very marginal pass none the less. Thought some of the replacement bartender types made some plays....As much as I like Harper, think it may be time to hang it up, he looked old, slow and whiffed several times, not to mention out of place. If we still stink after we get healthier, believe then we may have to look at doing something.
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Oh for hells sake. Stop with the Payton bashing. He's a good coach and even if we were to fire him, who the hell is gonna get our offensive production? No one.

I love this place. But good hell I'm about to abort after almost a decade and a half. It's just a downer.

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I live this place. But good hell I'm about to abort after almost a decade and a half. It's just a downer.
Don't abort... choose life!!!!
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What is latter day Williams?

You mean the best defenses this team has seen in decades?

Greg Williams was the best thing that happen to the Saints, since he left we have been an average franchise at best. The success from 2009-2011 was in large part due to GW not Payton.
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