Trade Mark Ingram!?!

burningmetal · 10-25-2016, 04:11 PM

As much joy as it would give me to have a player of his caliber in our backfield, we would have to absolutely tank to get him. He won't necessarily be the top pick, even though he's the best player, but I can't imagine him slipping past 3 or 4. We'd have to give up too much to trade up, and that isn't worth it for the overall good of this team, in my opinion.

Of course, if the Saints never get healthy, they could easily be in the top 5. If they get healthy, I don't see worse than a 7-9.

jeanpierre · 10-25-2016, 04:20 PM

Out with Bama in with LSU? Not very likely...

One, it'd alienate our Gulf Coast fans in Alabama...

Two, we all know Payton hates LSU players...

Three, we need a top tier defensive end more than anything...

dizzle88 · 10-25-2016, 04:55 PM

The way Ingram is playing we could trade him and lean on Hightower and Lasco the rest of the way in my opinion.

I've been one of his biggest supporters for years, but when a guy who's been out of football for 4 years (hightower) is ripping off 12-15 yard runs on his first few carries and ingram is tripping over for 2 yards a pop it might be time to look elsewhere.

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2016, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

The way Ingram is playing we could trade him and lean on Hightower and Lasco the rest of the way in my opinion.

I've been one of his biggest supporters for years, but when a guy who's been out of football for 4 years (hightower) is ripping off 12-15 yard runs on his first few carries and ingram is tripping over for 2 yards a pop it might be time to look elsewhere.

Name the scenario where a trade would actually work within both salary caps, even if it was logical. There are tons of factors involved that most fans, and lots of Pretend GM's fail to consider when banging on their pans and protesting.

saintfan · 10-25-2016, 05:00 PM

Who blocks better?

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Danno · 10-25-2016, 05:05 PM

I hope we trade him. He deserves better

burningmetal · 10-25-2016, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I hope we trade him. He deserves better

Deserves better? He's making 4 million a year to be one of the most average RB's in the league.

Explain please.

Danno · 10-25-2016, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Deserves better? He's making 4 million a year to be one of the most average RB's in the league.

Explain please.

Fan hate

dizzle88 · 10-25-2016, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Fan hate

In all fairness, Hightower was much more effective in the KC game and ingram hasn't had very good rushing totals for a while.

Hightower vs KC - 5 carries, 39 yards, 7.8 average
Ingram last 3 games; 18 for 56 yards, 16 for 51 yards and 16 for 62 yards.

Ingram is getting plenty of carries, but when he is running into the lineman, tripping over or just not picking a gap he is barely gaining 3 yards a carry, whereas Hightower was ripping off runs of 7-8 yards each time.

burningmetal · 10-25-2016, 08:47 PM

Fan hate? Really? Nothing else?

I know it has always pained you to hear criticism of your bama players, but this is Saints football we're talking about, and it wouldn't matter to me if he were from LSU. Ingram is not the first player to come under fire for underwhelming play.

If he goes to another team and runs into the back of his linemen, those fans will criticize him just as loudly and probably more.

10-25-2016, 04:11 PM	#1
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! As much joy as it would give me to have a player of his caliber in our backfield, we would have to absolutely tank to get him. He won't necessarily be the top pick, even though he's the best player, but I can't imagine him slipping past 3 or 4. We'd have to give up too much to trade up, and that isn't worth it for the overall good of this team, in my opinion. Of course, if the Saints never get healthy, they could easily be in the top 5. If they get healthy, I don't see worse than a 7-9. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Out with Bama in with LSU? Not very likely... One, it'd alienate our Gulf Coast fans in Alabama... Two, we all know Payton hates LSU players... Three, we need a top tier defensive end more than anything...

10-25-2016, 04:55 PM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! The way Ingram is playing we could trade him and lean on Hightower and Lasco the rest of the way in my opinion. I've been one of his biggest supporters for years, but when a guy who's been out of football for 4 years (hightower) is ripping off 12-15 yard runs on his first few carries and ingram is tripping over for 2 yards a pop it might be time to look elsewhere. Rell&Gold likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Originally Posted by dizzle88 The way Ingram is playing we could trade him and lean on Hightower and Lasco the rest of the way in my opinion. I've been one of his biggest supporters for years, but when a guy who's been out of football for 4 years (hightower) is ripping off 12-15 yard runs on his first few carries and ingram is tripping over for 2 yards a pop it might be time to look elsewhere. Name the scenario where a trade would actually work within both salary caps, even if it was logical. There are tons of factors involved that most fans, and lots of Pretend GM's fail to consider when banging on their pans and protesting. Danno likes this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Who blocks better? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! I hope we trade him. He deserves better captainshawn likes this.

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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Originally Posted by Danno I hope we trade him. He deserves better Deserves better? He's making 4 million a year to be one of the most average RB's in the league. Explain please. dizzle88 and captainshawn like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Originally Posted by burningmetal Deserves better? He's making 4 million a year to be one of the most average RB's in the league. Explain please. Fan hate

10-25-2016, 05:50 PM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Originally Posted by Danno Fan hate In all fairness, Hightower was much more effective in the KC game and ingram hasn't had very good rushing totals for a while. Hightower vs KC - 5 carries, 39 yards, 7.8 average Ingram last 3 games; 18 for 56 yards, 16 for 51 yards and 16 for 62 yards. Ingram is getting plenty of carries, but when he is running into the lineman, tripping over or just not picking a gap he is barely gaining 3 yards a carry, whereas Hightower was ripping off runs of 7-8 yards each time. Rell&Gold and brees84 like this.

10-25-2016, 08:47 PM	#10
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Fan hate? Really? Nothing else? I know it has always pained you to hear criticism of your bama players, but this is Saints football we're talking about, and it wouldn't matter to me if he were from LSU. Ingram is not the first player to come under fire for underwhelming play. If he goes to another team and runs into the back of his linemen, those fans will criticize him just as loudly and probably more. K Major and brees84 like this.

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