Losing winnable games.

Utah_Saint · 11-14-2016, 10:53 PM

We've also won a couple very close games this season.

The defense has been the Achilles heel for this team for years. Finally, it looks like they're making real improvement. Hopefully, there will be fewer close games, in which one bad play determines the outcome.

Special teams is embarrassing again this year. They haven't helped the team in general and directly cost two games this season. It's been said on here many times for many years now, Greg McMahon has got to go! If Payton can't fire his college buddy then Loomis needs to.

K Major · 11-14-2016, 11:00 PM

We've had 3 kicks blocked this season, 2 for game changing scores.

That's a real concern.

jeanpierre · 11-15-2016, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

We've had 3 kicks blocked this season, 2 for game changing scores.

That's a real concern.

Big Time. And yet despite it being more obvious than ever, McMahon is still ST coach - mind boggling...

Rugby Saint II · 11-15-2016, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

So after winning 4 out of 5 games, we once again lost a very winnable game which has been happening all season.

Once again, for the third straight season a slow start has made every week crucial, literally no room for error which never works out well, especially for us.

It looked like winning 4 out of 5 games, we had firmly planted ourselves in the number 2 spot. However, now the Buccaneers have won 2 division games which has given them the number 2 spot, we could reclaim it, but this team is not a team built to make a run.

We continue to lose winnable games, just like the last few seasons.

It is 2014 and 2015 reincarnated, we are going to suffer with inconsistency every week until major changes are made.

One change that Payton can no longer ignore - Special Teams, they are very special indeed.

As you know, I am more in the favour of blaming the loss on the turnovers, that doesn't however give the Special Teams a free pass.

The return game is non existent
We allow 40 plus yard returns
2 FG's have been blocked and returned this season.

Payton can no longer ignore this, we have been saying McMahon needs to go for years, it has finally got to the point where they are costing us vital points in close games.

I will continue to watch every week and have friday booked off work to watch thursday night, unfortunately though this seems to be another let's wait until next year.

Starting 0-3 or 0-4 for 3 seasons straight is absolutely dire, it makes absolutely zero room for error and it magnifies every mistake.

We have not won on opening day since 2013 vs falcons, that is ridiculous.

If the D can continue how they did last night I would be extremely happy, 6 sacks and 2 picks is a great peformance, I just hope it wasn't entirely due to the Broncos O line and a rookie QB.

Now when did we go to Greenbriar?

hagan714 · 11-15-2016, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Coming into the game, Saints were #31st in K/O return average. Watching HT and Cadet ... they aren't on the same page. Don't know when to fair catch, when to block, when to run.

All I see are negative yards, indecisiveness and our punter Morstead getting blown up by his own teammates. I just can't defend McMahon. Special teams blunders are costing this team.

A change is needed at Special teams coach.

In JPs roster thread the saints have added players dealing with issue. So they are trying. This is were the poor drafts are showing. always will

11-14-2016, 10:53 PM	#11
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Losing winnable games. We've also won a couple very close games this season. The defense has been the Achilles heel for this team for years. Finally, it looks like they're making real improvement. Hopefully, there will be fewer close games, in which one bad play determines the outcome. Special teams is embarrassing again this year. They haven't helped the team in general and directly cost two games this season. It's been said on here many times for many years now, Greg McMahon has got to go! If Payton can't fire his college buddy then Loomis needs to. Beastmode and K Major like this.

11-14-2016, 11:00 PM	#12
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Losing winnable games. We've had 3 kicks blocked this season, 2 for game changing scores. That's a real concern. hagan714, jeanpierre, Beastmode and 1 others like this.

11-15-2016, 02:00 AM	#13
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Losing winnable games. Originally Posted by K Major We've had 3 kicks blocked this season, 2 for game changing scores. That's a real concern. Big Time. And yet despite it being more obvious than ever, McMahon is still ST coach - mind boggling...

11-15-2016, 03:47 PM	#14
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Losing winnable games. Originally Posted by dizzle88 So after winning 4 out of 5 games, we once again lost a very winnable game which has been happening all season. Once again, for the third straight season a slow start has made every week crucial, literally no room for error which never works out well, especially for us. It looked like winning 4 out of 5 games, we had firmly planted ourselves in the number 2 spot. However, now the Buccaneers have won 2 division games which has given them the number 2 spot, we could reclaim it, but this team is not a team built to make a run. We continue to lose winnable games, just like the last few seasons. It is 2014 and 2015 reincarnated, we are going to suffer with inconsistency every week until major changes are made. One change that Payton can no longer ignore - Special Teams, they are very special indeed. As you know, I am more in the favour of blaming the loss on the turnovers, that doesn't however give the Special Teams a free pass. The return game is non existent We allow 40 plus yard returns 2 FG's have been blocked and returned this season. Payton can no longer ignore this, we have been saying McMahon needs to go for years, it has finally got to the point where they are costing us vital points in close games. I will continue to watch every week and have friday booked off work to watch thursday night, unfortunately though this seems to be another let's wait until next year. Starting 0-3 or 0-4 for 3 seasons straight is absolutely dire, it makes absolutely zero room for error and it magnifies every mistake. We have not won on opening day since 2013 vs falcons, that is ridiculous. If the D can continue how they did last night I would be extremely happy, 6 sacks and 2 picks is a great peformance, I just hope it wasn't entirely due to the Broncos O line and a rookie QB. Now when did we go to Greenbriar?

11-15-2016, 05:09 PM	#15
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Losing winnable games. Originally Posted by K Major Coming into the game, Saints were #31st in K/O return average. Watching HT and Cadet ... they aren't on the same page. Don't know when to fair catch, when to block, when to run. All I see are negative yards, indecisiveness and our punter Morstead getting blown up by his own teammates. I just can't defend McMahon. Special teams blunders are costing this team. A change is needed at Special teams coach. In JPs roster thread the saints have added players dealing with issue. So they are trying. This is were the poor drafts are showing. always will

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