Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 731240)

I notice that you still didn't answer the initial question. It really doesn't matter what Payton has or has not done. All that matters is who specifically can you bring into this organization in its current state and get significantly better production in a short time frame.

It's not a question of if Payton is qualified. It is a question of who might be qualified and why.

And please don't bother is unrealistic "pie in the sky" choices. Specifically: Gruden, Harbaugh, and Cowher. As has been pointed out before, but I'll repeat again, that all three essentially have their dream job. And more specifically Gruden and Cowher have a Super Bowl winning legacy to protect. Also specifically both of them have been out of football for many many years. As for Harbaugh, he's making $8 million a year and is more celebrated in Ann Arbor than the King of Bacchus at Mardi Gras.

And I just want to point out that the San Francisco 49ers made exactly the same stupid mistake with Harbaugh that many are proposing with Payton now. 1-13 and looking pitiful.

I'm not making the argument that only Payton is the solution. However, I'm going to continue to push back that the solution is to get rid of him for an option that is unknown or is made of unobtainium.

So please be specific on who you would staff with, excluding the three above (or any other ex-coach TV personality), and why staffing with that person is an improvement over Payton.

SFIAH

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 731216)

Just can't argue with these things anymore either. What'sworse is our cap is maxed out while doing this terrible.

Forgot to include falling down all over ourselves during our biggest games this season

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 731287)

Benson just walked into the SP presser and yelled great coach, great win. He is going no where.

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 731292)

Just because Benson did that means nothing. I'm personally wondering what Payton will think if this season ends on a sour note. Getting swept by Atlanta, losing on the 10 year anniversary capped by Atlanta winning the sb..............beating Atlanta has been one of Payton's major accolades here. I want to see how he reacts after that. Because I think he might just want to move on.

Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 731307)

I didnt come to this thread to suggest any choices. As a matter of fact, there was no " initial question", as you stated, asking who a replacement should be so maybe you should think before you post. I mean seriously, do you even read the posts?? Maybe if you did, you'd see that all i did was present some valid points as to why SP should move on. I have no idea who we should interview for HC jobs, but that doesn't refute any of the points that I made.

I even went on to say that there might be some unknowns out there that may be qualified for the job. I didnt even mention any of those 3 coaches that you brought up so it sounds like you were just trying to overkill on making your point asking me to be specific. However, just because I don't have a specific replacement in mind doesnt make my points any less valid. If yiu can dispute them, please do so. As a matter of fact, why don't YOU answer MY question and be specific as to why SP should continue as our coach? I'm sure if anyone underperformed at their job for several years in a row like he has, their employer would be asking the same questions eventhough he may not already have a replacement in mind.



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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 731331)

In what way did Payton "underperform"? His offense has been the top ranked over the entire stretch. The defense was horrible two years ago and and he made the move to replace the DC. This year the defense is vastly improved with much of the better talent either on the IR or on the sidelines with injuries. With a healthy squad next season we should be challenging for the fist round bye. Yet you want to throw that out the window. You know that Payton isn't going anywhere because Benson is not an idiot. Accept that fact and move on.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 731329)

And that surprises you? For Payton to be fired someone has to fire him. That will never be Benson or Loomis. Everyone needs to learn to accept that fact.It is a waste of time to even talk about replacing Payton.

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 731338)

Well, I am not sure it will never happen, but would agree it is not likely right now. He just signed a new contract, but at some point when fan's voices grow loud enough he will go, but let's hope next year we are 12-4 and this is a mute point. No sense in speculating right now, he doesn't appear to be leaving unless he chooses.