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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Allen's D is not in place. It is on the IR. Keenan Lewis Delvin Breaux PJ Williams Damien Swann Kyle Wilson Danelle Ellerbe Sheldon Rankins Jamarca Sanford Erik Harris Oben Gwatchum Hau'oli Kikaha Michael Mauti All ...
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12-23-2016, 01:19 PM | #11 |
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Re: We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon
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Delvin Breaux PJ Williams Damien Swann Kyle Wilson Danelle Ellerbe Sheldon Rankins Jamarca Sanford Erik Harris Oben Gwatchum Hau'oli Kikaha Michael Mauti All missed significant playing time. You could begin building a pretty decent defense with just that list of players. |
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Re: We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
Excuses and reasons are often confused but there is also the word denial. I think thats what some fans here do, denial. We haven't had a real D in the Payton era and only Williams made it work, the clowns we have as D coaches have NO TEAM INTERESTED IN THEM IN THE LEAST. Allen was a one hit wonder the 2009 season and if it wasn't for Sharper he wouldn't have gotten a sniff from another team then. If you think he's the answer the word denial might be lurking. Payton brought hif flunkie back out of pity because it wasn't from being a good DC. I would have been laughing if it wasn't my Saints being manhandled by Detroit when your boy Allen was going to put his stamp on the game and blitz Stafford to show how Stafford Allen was the man on I believe a 3rd and 17, I know what Stafford showed Allen 7 points. Denial is not a good thing. Oh by the way on that list all very unproven players.
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12-23-2016, 04:15 PM | #13 |
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Re: We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon
I disagree.
Defenses come together at certain times... you also want them to hit their stride at the right time as well. No time to panic though there was imporvement you see some talen emerging and that is what you want to see. |
12-23-2016, 04:25 PM | #14 |
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Re: We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon
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With what? I love Ellerbe but he's always hurt. The rookies? Remains to be proven although I do think Rankins and Harris. Lewis hasn't stayed healthy and Breaux regressed? Williams can't stay on the field for long and Kiki I might never get to know. I ask again with what? The IR team?
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12-23-2016, 04:58 PM | #15 |
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Re: We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon
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So you've bashed all these guys, who were some of our top guys entering the season, yet say Dennis Allen isn't getting it done?
Sounds to me like, according to you, Dennis Allen is making Chicken Salad out of Chicken ****! |
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I'm not in denial, this D isn't that good, chicken salad or not. I am a Saints fan always have been but it don't mean I got to like the direction it's gone. You can call it bashing I call it telling the truth.
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Re: We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon
Originally Posted by halloween 65
So is Dennis Allen doing well with sub-par talent,
Or is this defense talented but he's just not getting it done? This defense isn't good, but most of our top guys missed significant playing time. For Dennis Allen to coach a bunch of street free agents to a defense ranked in the mid 20's is outstanding to me. Imagine what he could do with some talent. |
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Re: We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon
Originally Posted by Danno
We'll see. I expect the good ole boys to ride it down until it burns.
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12-23-2016, 07:09 PM | #20 |
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Re: We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon
Originally Posted by WhoDat!656
How were we ranked 25 overall if we were 12 against the run and 4th against the pass? Is that common core math? |
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