We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon

Danno · 12-23-2016, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Allen's D is not in place. It is on the IR.

Keenan Lewis
Delvin Breaux
PJ Williams
Damien Swann
Kyle Wilson
Danelle Ellerbe
Sheldon Rankins
Jamarca Sanford
Erik Harris
Oben Gwatchum
Hau'oli Kikaha
Michael Mauti

All missed significant playing time. You could begin building a pretty decent defense with just that list of players.

halloween 65 · 12-23-2016, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Keenan Lewis
Delvin Breaux
PJ Williams
Damien Swann
Kyle Wilson
Danelle Ellerbe
Sheldon Rankins
Jamarca Sanford
Erik Harris
Oben Gwatchum
Hau'oli Kikaha
Michael Mauti

All missed significant playing time. You could begin building a pretty decent defense with just that list of players.

With what? I love Ellerbe but he's always hurt. The rookies? Remains to be proven although I do think Rankins and Harris. Lewis hasn't stayed healthy and Breaux regressed? Williams can't stay on the field for long and Kiki I might never get to know. I ask again with what? The IR team?

Danno · 12-23-2016, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

With what? I love Ellerbe but he's always hurt. The rookies? Remains to be proven although I do think Rankins and Harris. Lewis hasn't stayed healthy and Breaux regressed? Williams can't stay on the field for long and Kiki I might never get to know. I ask again with what? The IR team?

So you've bashed all these guys, who were some of our top guys entering the season, yet say Dennis Allen isn't getting it done?
Sounds to me like, according to you, Dennis Allen is making Chicken Salad out of Chicken ****!

halloween 65 · 12-23-2016, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

So you've bashed all these guys, who were some of our top guys entering the season, yet say Dennis Allen isn't getting it done?
Sounds to me like, according to you, Dennis Allen is making Chicken Salad out of Chicken ****!

I'm not in denial, this D isn't that good, chicken salad or not. I am a Saints fan always have been but it don't mean I got to like the direction it's gone. You can call it bashing I call it telling the truth.

Danno · 12-23-2016, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I'm not in denial, this D isn't that good, chicken salad or not. I am a Saints fan always have been but it don't mean I got to like the direction it's gone. You can call it bashing I call it telling the truth.

So is Dennis Allen doing well with sub-par talent,
Or is this defense talented but he's just not getting it done?

This defense isn't good, but most of our top guys missed significant playing time.

For Dennis Allen to coach a bunch of street free agents to a defense ranked in the mid 20's is outstanding to me.

Imagine what he could do with some talent.

halloween 65 · 12-23-2016, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

So is Dennis Allen doing well with sub-par talent,
Or is this defense talented but he's just not getting it done?

This defense isn't good, but most of our top guys missed significant playing time.

For Dennis Allen to coach a bunch of street free agents to a defense ranked in the mid 20's is outstanding to me.

Imagine what he could do with some talent.

We'll see. I expect the good ole boys to ride it down until it burns.

AsylumGuido · 12-25-2016, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

We'll see. I expect the good ole boys to ride it down until it burns.

Of course you do. That's how you roll.

K Major · 12-29-2016, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

For Dennis Allen to coach a bunch of street free agents to a defense ranked in the mid 20's is outstanding to me.

Imagine what he could do with some talent.

This ^^^^^^^^^.

I also think Allen has done well in spite of all the unfortunate injuries in 2016.

12-23-2016, 01:19 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Re: We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Allen's D is not in place. It is on the IR. Keenan Lewis Delvin Breaux PJ Williams Damien Swann Kyle Wilson Danelle Ellerbe Sheldon Rankins Jamarca Sanford Erik Harris Oben Gwatchum Hau'oli Kikaha Michael Mauti All missed significant playing time. You could begin building a pretty decent defense with just that list of players. RockyMountainSaint, foreverfan, AsylumGuido and 1 others like this.

12-23-2016, 04:25 PM	#2
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon Originally Posted by Danno Keenan Lewis Delvin Breaux PJ Williams Damien Swann Kyle Wilson Danelle Ellerbe Sheldon Rankins Jamarca Sanford Erik Harris Oben Gwatchum Hau'oli Kikaha Michael Mauti All missed significant playing time. You could begin building a pretty decent defense with just that list of players. With what? I love Ellerbe but he's always hurt. The rookies? Remains to be proven although I do think Rankins and Harris. Lewis hasn't stayed healthy and Breaux regressed? Williams can't stay on the field for long and Kiki I might never get to know. I ask again with what? The IR team?

12-23-2016, 04:58 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Re: We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon Originally Posted by halloween 65 With what? I love Ellerbe but he's always hurt. The rookies? Remains to be proven although I do think Rankins and Harris. Lewis hasn't stayed healthy and Breaux regressed? Williams can't stay on the field for long and Kiki I might never get to know. I ask again with what? The IR team? So you've bashed all these guys, who were some of our top guys entering the season, yet say Dennis Allen isn't getting it done? Sounds to me like, according to you, Dennis Allen is making Chicken Salad out of Chicken ****!

12-23-2016, 05:18 PM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon Originally Posted by Danno So you've bashed all these guys, who were some of our top guys entering the season, yet say Dennis Allen isn't getting it done? Sounds to me like, according to you, Dennis Allen is making Chicken Salad out of Chicken ****! I'm not in denial, this D isn't that good, chicken salad or not. I am a Saints fan always have been but it don't mean I got to like the direction it's gone. You can call it bashing I call it telling the truth.

12-23-2016, 05:28 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Re: We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon Originally Posted by halloween 65 I'm not in denial, this D isn't that good, chicken salad or not. I am a Saints fan always have been but it don't mean I got to like the direction it's gone. You can call it bashing I call it telling the truth. So is Dennis Allen doing well with sub-par talent, Or is this defense talented but he's just not getting it done? This defense isn't good, but most of our top guys missed significant playing time. For Dennis Allen to coach a bunch of street free agents to a defense ranked in the mid 20's is outstanding to me. Imagine what he could do with some talent. jnormand, AsylumGuido and K Major like this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon Originally Posted by Danno So is Dennis Allen doing well with sub-par talent, Or is this defense talented but he's just not getting it done? This defense isn't good, but most of our top guys missed significant playing time. For Dennis Allen to coach a bunch of street free agents to a defense ranked in the mid 20's is outstanding to me. Imagine what he could do with some talent. We'll see. I expect the good ole boys to ride it down until it burns.

12-25-2016, 07:32 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon Originally Posted by halloween 65 We'll see. I expect the good ole boys to ride it down until it burns. Of course you do. That's how you roll.

12-29-2016, 02:49 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,830 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We're not going to be a first ranked defense anytime soon Originally Posted by Danno For Dennis Allen to coach a bunch of street free agents to a defense ranked in the mid 20's is outstanding to me. Imagine what he could do with some talent. This ^^^^^^^^^. I also think Allen has done well in spite of all the unfortunate injuries in 2016. jnormand, RockyMountainSaint and dizzle88 like this.

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