What I wish we had/ could find again

WillSaints81 · 12-27-2016, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

The man caught 71 passes for 600 yards. Do you understand this, and it was only 15 catches less than his first season with us. He ran way more than screen plays, as a matter of fact our best rb at running a screen play was PT. Sproles ran a variety of routes. It would certainly not hurt to have that type of mismatch again and forces the defense to account for another offensive weapon

The eagles are RUN FIRST team. We cannot compare to them but I saw several times in 2013, a screen play to Sproles ended in negative yards. We don't need this. Payton needs this but Brees doesn't.

spkb25 · 12-27-2016, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

The eagles are RUN FIRST team. We cannot compare to them but I saw several times in 2013, a screen play to Sproles ended in negative yards. We don't need this. Payton needs this but Brees doesn't.

I didn't, he had 71 catches for 600 yards. We used to run screens better than any team in the entire league. Toward the end of this season we started getting more productive with screens again. Nice to see.

WTf are you talking about Philly for. They don't even have the same head coach man. You are all over the place spewing nonsense. I said it would help create mismatches and it would.

This thread was not asking for your opinion of Darren Sproles, what Drew Brees needs vs the needs of SP, or what the hell the Philadelphia Eagles base plan of attack is. It was a thread created to see if people could identify a candidate for those duties. Now go create a 6 layer (and yes that says layer not player) 8 team trade Post, please.

Papa Voodoo · 12-28-2016, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

The best defenses in the league do not allow those screen plays. Sproles in 2013 was subpar, which was why he was traded. He was just a decoy really. It's also rediculous to think Brees(or Payton) needs screen passes to win.

They don't but PT did some great work with those screens.

Rugby Saint II · 12-29-2016, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

They don't but PT did some great work with those screens.

Besides Deuce PT was the best all around back we've had in a long time. He will always be the screen king to me. It was a thing of beauty to watch. He didn't run like a scat back in runs, he was a smart runner reading his blocks and making the most of his moves to get him into open field. Oh yes, he was good inside too.

ChrisXVI · 12-27-2016, 12:16 PM

It got so predictable though. That last season we had Sproles every defense had it figured out and it wasn't effective anymore.

spkb25 · 12-27-2016, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

It got so predictable though. That last season we had Sproles every defense had it figured out and it wasn't effective anymore.

He had 71 catches for 600 yards. Either way, I don't think there was anything predictable about it, but even if you think that, with the receivers we have now it would just be another target to have to try and cover.

The Dude · 12-27-2016, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

With all of our success on offense this year, and I think this is the best group of receivers we have ever had, I can't help but wonder if we can get a Reggie (first few seasons with us) or Sproles type catching passes out of the backfield how absolutely unstoppable we will be.

Yes we need a guard and to monitor the situation with Terron. We also need to look to replace Zach. I wonder if Turner can make a leap in his second year. He may not be a great pass blocker, but I watched him on the run near goal line and he took his guy about 10 yards down the field. Be nice if he could improve his pass blocking.

Why do we need to replace Zach? He was one of the best lineman in football this year and he isn't costing us that much.

spkb25 · 12-27-2016, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Why do we need to replace Zach? He was one of the best lineman in football this year and he isn't costing us that much.

Because this was his 11th season. I prefer not to wait until the wheels fall off before we start looking for his replacement

WillSaints81 · 12-27-2016, 02:34 PM

And if Payton trades up to get that one guy, a lot of us will be outraged.

hagan714 · 12-27-2016, 02:46 PM

Interior flexibility to groom

Ethan Pocic C/OG/OT LSU 6056 309 5.18 Sr #77 Sr
Mr versatility. has played every position in his time at LSU

Mason Cole C/OG/OT Michigan 6045 305 5.06 #52 rJr
strength and athleticism

Need a swing OT to groom

Ryan Ramczyk OT/OG Wisconsin 6052 314 5.29 #65 rJr
back injury worries me

Garret Bolles OT/OG/DT Utah 6052 296 4.97 #75 Jr
nasty, mean mobility/balance. 296 is rock solid

Mike McGlinchey RT/LT Notre Dame 6072 310 5.22 #68 rJr
Steady Eddie does nothing great but what he does he does well

Avery Gennesy OT/OG Texas A&M 6045 305 5.08 #65
needs some work but he is about as flexible as they come

The draft is solid in players that fit our needs and can play all over the OL. Right or Left no big deal. they swing

Trade back and snag both in round 2

Ethan Pocic C/OG/OT LSU 6056 309 5.18 Sr #77 Sr
Garret Bolles OT/OG/DT Utah 6052 296 4.97 #75 Jr

I would be feeling mighty good about OL future going into 2017

12-27-2016, 07:20 PM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Originally Posted by spkb25 The man caught 71 passes for 600 yards. Do you understand this, and it was only 15 catches less than his first season with us. He ran way more than screen plays, as a matter of fact our best rb at running a screen play was PT. Sproles ran a variety of routes. It would certainly not hurt to have that type of mismatch again and forces the defense to account for another offensive weapon The eagles are RUN FIRST team. We cannot compare to them but I saw several times in 2013, a screen play to Sproles ended in negative yards. We don't need this. Payton needs this but Brees doesn't.

12-27-2016, 07:30 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,147	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Originally Posted by WillSaints81 The eagles are RUN FIRST team. We cannot compare to them but I saw several times in 2013, a screen play to Sproles ended in negative yards. We don't need this. Payton needs this but Brees doesn't. I didn't, he had 71 catches for 600 yards. We used to run screens better than any team in the entire league. Toward the end of this season we started getting more productive with screens again. Nice to see. WTf are you talking about Philly for. They don't even have the same head coach man. You are all over the place spewing nonsense. I said it would help create mismatches and it would. This thread was not asking for your opinion of Darren Sproles, what Drew Brees needs vs the needs of SP, or what the hell the Philadelphia Eagles base plan of attack is. It was a thread created to see if people could identify a candidate for those duties. Now go create a 6 layer (and yes that says layer not player) 8 team trade Post, please.
	Your team stinks

12-28-2016, 01:26 PM	#3
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Originally Posted by WillSaints81 The best defenses in the league do not allow those screen plays. Sproles in 2013 was subpar, which was why he was traded. He was just a decoy really. It's also rediculous to think Brees(or Payton) needs screen passes to win. They don't but PT did some great work with those screens. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-29-2016, 01:54 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,250	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo They don't but PT did some great work with those screens. Besides Deuce PT was the best all around back we've had in a long time. He will always be the screen king to me. It was a thing of beauty to watch. He didn't run like a scat back in runs, he was a smart runner reading his blocks and making the most of his moves to get him into open field. Oh yes, he was good inside too. halloween 65 likes this.

12-27-2016, 01:29 PM	#7
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,076	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Originally Posted by spkb25 With all of our success on offense this year, and I think this is the best group of receivers we have ever had, I can't help but wonder if we can get a Reggie (first few seasons with us) or Sproles type catching passes out of the backfield how absolutely unstoppable we will be. Yes we need a guard and to monitor the situation with Terron. We also need to look to replace Zach. I wonder if Turner can make a leap in his second year. He may not be a great pass blocker, but I watched him on the run near goal line and he took his guy about 10 yards down the field. Be nice if he could improve his pass blocking. Why do we need to replace Zach? He was one of the best lineman in football this year and he isn't costing us that much. Papa Voodoo likes this.
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12-27-2016, 12:16 PM	#5
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again It got so predictable though. That last season we had Sproles every defense had it figured out and it wasn't effective anymore. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-27-2016, 12:30 PM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,147	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Originally Posted by ChrisXVI It got so predictable though. That last season we had Sproles every defense had it figured out and it wasn't effective anymore. He had 71 catches for 600 yards. Either way, I don't think there was anything predictable about it, but even if you think that, with the receivers we have now it would just be another target to have to try and cover.

12-27-2016, 01:50 PM	#8
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,147	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Originally Posted by The Dude Why do we need to replace Zach? He was one of the best lineman in football this year and he isn't costing us that much. Because this was his 11th season. I prefer not to wait until the wheels fall off before we start looking for his replacement Rugby Saint II and MarchingOn like this.

12-27-2016, 02:34 PM	#9
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again And if Payton trades up to get that one guy, a lot of us will be outraged.

12-27-2016, 02:46 PM	#10
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Interior flexibility to groom Ethan Pocic C/OG/OT LSU 6056 309 5.18 Sr #77 Sr Mr versatility. has played every position in his time at LSU Mason Cole C/OG/OT Michigan 6045 305 5.06 #52 rJr strength and athleticism Need a swing OT to groom Ryan Ramczyk OT/OG Wisconsin 6052 314 5.29 #65 rJr back injury worries me Garret Bolles OT/OG/DT Utah 6052 296 4.97 #75 Jr nasty, mean mobility/balance. 296 is rock solid Mike McGlinchey RT/LT Notre Dame 6072 310 5.22 #68 rJr Steady Eddie does nothing great but what he does he does well Avery Gennesy OT/OG Texas A&M 6045 305 5.08 #65 needs some work but he is about as flexible as they come The draft is solid in players that fit our needs and can play all over the OL. Right or Left no big deal. they swing Trade back and snag both in round 2 Ethan Pocic C/OG/OT LSU 6056 309 5.18 Sr #77 Sr Garret Bolles OT/OG/DT Utah 6052 296 4.97 #75 Jr I would be feeling mighty good about OL future going into 2017 Rugby Saint II and MarchingOn like this.
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