Unnerving Brees Quote

darstep · 01-01-2017, 10:39 PM

We definitely need help on O-line and D-line.
Honestly, we need lots of stuff.
We had high hopes for the defense when the season started but
injuries kind of killed that.
Scored enough points most weeks to win - couldn't stop anybody.
Another wasted +5000 yard sub .500 season.
It's a damn shame.

WillSaints81 · 01-01-2017, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

The reversal on Fleener was BS! We have all seen the ball move a helluva lot more in other games and be called a TD; yes the ball moved, but he NEVER lost CONTROL of it!

And he never fumbled last week.

WillSaints81 · 01-01-2017, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by darstep

We definitely need help on O-line and D-line.
Honestly, we need lots of stuff.
We had high hopes for the defense when the season started but
injuries kind of killed that.
Scored enough points most weeks to win - couldn't stop anybody.
Another wasted +5000 yard sub .500 season.
It's a damn shame.

We scored enough points most weeks to win? What weeks were those?

LivnaLieTimay · 01-01-2017, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

We scored enough points most weeks to win? What weeks were those?

The offense definitely had their ups and downs this year but lets look at the numbers...

Scored 20+ in 13 games. 8 teams (including the Giants and Texans who are in the playoffs) didn't average 20 ppg for the season.

Scored 30+ in 9 games.

29.3 ppg for the season, 2nd in the NFL

Meanwhile our defense was 31st in the NFL giving up 28.4 ppg.

By these numbers, the offense had plenty of weeks where they scored enough points. I don't get what your vendetta is with the offense. Sure it wasn't what we've seen when we were at our peak but our offense is better than most. However, you can't overlook how bad the defense has been not only this year but for a while now.

darstep · 01-01-2017, 11:37 PM

Exactly!
If we hold teams to 2 touchdowns and 2 field goals we are at least 12-4.
And if we are holding teams to 20 or less that's even more possessions for our offense.

CharityMike · 01-02-2017, 12:02 AM

Timay, you can't talk sense to some people. Many forget what we looked like coming into the season. If you go back to preseason and tell me you thought our offense would finish like it did, i'll call you a liar.

Our oline played better than expected. There are obvious holes on it at guard. Every team has its ups and downs. Our offense took days off but to sit and point to it as the reason our record is what it is, thats retarded. The mash unit of db's and crap ST play did us in this year.

voodooido · 01-02-2017, 12:20 AM

Sounds to me like he is just fed up with losing. He is about to turn 38. He wants another ring but SP won't give it to him

spkb25 · 01-02-2017, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay

The offense definitely had their ups and downs this year but lets look at the numbers...

Scored 20+ in 13 games. 8 teams (including the Giants and Texans who are in the playoffs) didn't average 20 ppg for the season.

Scored 30+ in 9 games.

29.3 ppg for the season, 2nd in the NFL

Meanwhile our defense was 31st in the NFL giving up 28.4 ppg.

By these numbers, the offense had plenty of weeks where they scored enough points. I don't get what your vendetta is with the offense. Sure it wasn't what we've seen when we were at our peak but our offense is better than most. However, you can't overlook how bad the defense has been not only this year but for a while now.

The Giants, Bucs, Panthers, Chiefs, and Broncos games were all lost by our offense.

WillSaints81 · 01-02-2017, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay

The offense definitely had their ups and downs this year but lets look at the numbers...

Scored 20+ in 13 games. 8 teams (including the Giants and Texans who are in the playoffs) didn't average 20 ppg for the season.

Scored 30+ in 9 games.

29.3 ppg for the season, 2nd in the NFL

Meanwhile our defense was 31st in the NFL giving up 28.4 ppg.

By these numbers, the offense had plenty of weeks where they scored enough points. I don't get what your vendetta is with the offense. Sure it wasn't what we've seen when we were at our peak but our offense is better than most. However, you can't overlook how bad the defense has been not only this year but for a while now.

The texans got lucky as hell playing in a crap division. They went 5-1 in division. Guess what their record outside of it was? 4-6.

And the giants who did they play? They got lucky with a three game home-stand against a mediocre eagles offense, depleted bengals, and the bears, the awful rams, the inept ravens offense, the browns. Like the saints could not beat THOSE teams.

And what makes you think we can be like the giants defense? You really think the giants defense was that bad before or did they quit? They had a culture of being a defensive team.

WE WILL NOT HAVE A DEFENSE LIKE THE GIANTS OR TEXANS ANYTIME SOON. The giants have always had a defensive philosophy.

And games we scored 30+ in 9 times.
Oakland..........okay I'll give you that.
Atl...................we lost this one mainly due to the fumble that set the stage.
@SD................we won though.
Car...................we won as well.
@SF..................defense played well too.
LA.....................it was a big game for Payton
@Arizona..........we won
@Atlanta..........13 points first half. Not normal against a bad defense like this team.

So defense lost 3 games we scored 30+ in.

As for 20+ games(besides those over 30)
@KC.....KC actually had 20 offensive points. Would have been 17. This is a team that went 12-4 btw and handed the broncos their behinds last week and won in OT in Denver week 12. Just torched a Bosa led offense.
Sea..........we won.
Den..........Michael Thomas 3 fumbles and they knew what they were getting their selves into targeting him against a top secondary. And game was lost on special teams. But Brees as usual got off to a slow start.
@Car-Car had 3 points before Brees throws a pick six. Offense played poorly all game until the fourth q and wasting a lot of clock.
TB....we won and got two interceptions.

So tell me again how the offense did enough to win? You don't wait until the second half to score points.

voodooido · 01-02-2017, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

The Giants, Bucs, Panthers, Chiefs, and Broncos games were all lost by our offense.

I disagree with the chiefs and broncos. We gave up 25 and 27 points. Bree's can't win the all. Th def nose should be able to win a game or two.

01-01-2017, 10:39 PM	#21
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote We definitely need help on O-line and D-line. Honestly, we need lots of stuff. We had high hopes for the defense when the season started but injuries kind of killed that. Scored enough points most weeks to win - couldn't stop anybody. Another wasted +5000 yard sub .500 season. It's a damn shame.

01-01-2017, 10:44 PM	#22
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 The reversal on Fleener was BS! We have all seen the ball move a helluva lot more in other games and be called a TD; yes the ball moved, but he NEVER lost CONTROL of it! And he never fumbled last week.

01-01-2017, 10:46 PM	#23
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Originally Posted by darstep We definitely need help on O-line and D-line. Honestly, we need lots of stuff. We had high hopes for the defense when the season started but injuries kind of killed that. Scored enough points most weeks to win - couldn't stop anybody. Another wasted +5000 yard sub .500 season. It's a damn shame. We scored enough points most weeks to win? What weeks were those?

01-01-2017, 11:34 PM	#24
LivnaLieTimay 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,498	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Originally Posted by WillSaints81 We scored enough points most weeks to win? What weeks were those? The offense definitely had their ups and downs this year but lets look at the numbers... Scored 20+ in 13 games. 8 teams (including the Giants and Texans who are in the playoffs) didn't average 20 ppg for the season. Scored 30+ in 9 games. 29.3 ppg for the season, 2nd in the NFL Meanwhile our defense was 31st in the NFL giving up 28.4 ppg. By these numbers, the offense had plenty of weeks where they scored enough points. I don't get what your vendetta is with the offense. Sure it wasn't what we've seen when we were at our peak but our offense is better than most. However, you can't overlook how bad the defense has been not only this year but for a while now. halloween 65, CharityMike and Saint in Aus like this.

01-01-2017, 11:37 PM	#25
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Exactly! If we hold teams to 2 touchdowns and 2 field goals we are at least 12-4. And if we are holding teams to 20 or less that's even more possessions for our offense.

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CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Timay, you can't talk sense to some people. Many forget what we looked like coming into the season. If you go back to preseason and tell me you thought our offense would finish like it did, i'll call you a liar. Our oline played better than expected. There are obvious holes on it at guard. Every team has its ups and downs. Our offense took days off but to sit and point to it as the reason our record is what it is, thats retarded. The mash unit of db's and crap ST play did us in this year. LivnaLieTimay likes this.

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,761	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Sounds to me like he is just fed up with losing. He is about to turn 38. He wants another ring but SP won't give it to him
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01-02-2017, 12:41 AM	#28
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay The offense definitely had their ups and downs this year but lets look at the numbers... Scored 20+ in 13 games. 8 teams (including the Giants and Texans who are in the playoffs) didn't average 20 ppg for the season. Scored 30+ in 9 games. 29.3 ppg for the season, 2nd in the NFL Meanwhile our defense was 31st in the NFL giving up 28.4 ppg. By these numbers, the offense had plenty of weeks where they scored enough points. I don't get what your vendetta is with the offense. Sure it wasn't what we've seen when we were at our peak but our offense is better than most. However, you can't overlook how bad the defense has been not only this year but for a while now. The Giants, Bucs, Panthers, Chiefs, and Broncos games were all lost by our offense.

01-02-2017, 01:14 AM	#29
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay The offense definitely had their ups and downs this year but lets look at the numbers... Scored 20+ in 13 games. 8 teams (including the Giants and Texans who are in the playoffs) didn't average 20 ppg for the season. Scored 30+ in 9 games. 29.3 ppg for the season, 2nd in the NFL Meanwhile our defense was 31st in the NFL giving up 28.4 ppg. By these numbers, the offense had plenty of weeks where they scored enough points. I don't get what your vendetta is with the offense. Sure it wasn't what we've seen when we were at our peak but our offense is better than most. However, you can't overlook how bad the defense has been not only this year but for a while now. The texans got lucky as hell playing in a crap division. They went 5-1 in division. Guess what their record outside of it was? 4-6. And the giants who did they play? They got lucky with a three game home-stand against a mediocre eagles offense, depleted bengals, and the bears, the awful rams, the inept ravens offense, the browns. Like the saints could not beat THOSE teams. And what makes you think we can be like the giants defense? You really think the giants defense was that bad before or did they quit? They had a culture of being a defensive team. WE WILL NOT HAVE A DEFENSE LIKE THE GIANTS OR TEXANS ANYTIME SOON. The giants have always had a defensive philosophy. And games we scored 30+ in 9 times. Oakland..........okay I'll give you that. Atl...................we lost this one mainly due to the fumble that set the stage. @SD................we won though. Car...................we won as well. @SF..................defense played well too. LA.....................it was a big game for Payton @Arizona..........we won @Atlanta..........13 points first half. Not normal against a bad defense like this team. So defense lost 3 games we scored 30+ in. As for 20+ games(besides those over 30) @KC.....KC actually had 20 offensive points. Would have been 17. This is a team that went 12-4 btw and handed the broncos their behinds last week and won in OT in Denver week 12. Just torched a Bosa led offense. Sea..........we won. Den..........Michael Thomas 3 fumbles and they knew what they were getting their selves into targeting him against a top secondary. And game was lost on special teams. But Brees as usual got off to a slow start. @Car-Car had 3 points before Brees throws a pick six. Offense played poorly all game until the fourth q and wasting a lot of clock. TB....we won and got two interceptions. So tell me again how the offense did enough to win? You don't wait until the second half to score points.

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