Unnerving Brees Quote

voodooido · 01-02-2017, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

The Giants, Bucs, Panthers, Chiefs, and Broncos games were all lost by our offense.

I disagree with the chiefs and broncos. We gave up 25 and 27 points. Bree's can't win the all. Th def nose should be able to win a game or two.

Rell&Gold · 01-02-2017, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

The Giants, Bucs, Panthers, Chiefs, and Broncos games were all lost by our offense.

Giants loss was due to ST, Panthers loss ST, Broncos loss ST

WillSaints81 · 01-02-2017, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay

The offense definitely had their ups and downs this year but lets look at the numbers...

Scored 20+ in 13 games. 8 teams (including the Giants and Texans who are in the playoffs) didn't average 20 ppg for the season.

Scored 30+ in 9 games.

29.3 ppg for the season, 2nd in the NFL

Meanwhile our defense was 31st in the NFL giving up 28.4 ppg.

By these numbers, the offense had plenty of weeks where they scored enough points. I don't get what your vendetta is with the offense. Sure it wasn't what we've seen when we were at our peak but our offense is better than most. However, you can't overlook how bad the defense has been not only this year but for a while now.

The texans got lucky as hell playing in a crap division. They went 5-1 in division. Guess what their record outside of it was? 4-6.

And the giants who did they play? They got lucky with a three game home-stand against a mediocre eagles offense, depleted bengals, and the bears, the awful rams, the inept ravens offense, the browns. Like the saints could not beat THOSE teams.

And what makes you think we can be like the giants defense? You really think the giants defense was that bad before or did they quit? They had a culture of being a defensive team.

WE WILL NOT HAVE A DEFENSE LIKE THE GIANTS OR TEXANS ANYTIME SOON. The giants have always had a defensive philosophy.

And games we scored 30+ in 9 times.
Oakland..........okay I'll give you that.
Atl...................we lost this one mainly due to the fumble that set the stage.
@SD................we won though.
Car...................we won as well.
@SF..................defense played well too.
LA.....................it was a big game for Payton
@Arizona..........we won
@Atlanta..........13 points first half. Not normal against a bad defense like this team.

So defense lost 3 games we scored 30+ in.

As for 20+ games(besides those over 30)
@KC.....KC actually had 20 offensive points. Would have been 17. This is a team that went 12-4 btw and handed the broncos their behinds last week and won in OT in Denver week 12. Just torched a Bosa led offense.
Sea..........we won.
Den..........Michael Thomas 3 fumbles and they knew what they were getting their selves into targeting him against a top secondary. And game was lost on special teams. But Brees as usual got off to a slow start.
@Car-Car had 3 points before Brees throws a pick six. Offense played poorly all game until the fourth q and wasting a lot of clock.
TB....we won and got two interceptions.

So tell me again how the offense did enough to win? You don't wait until the second half to score points.

halloween 65 · 01-02-2017, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay

The offense definitely had their ups and downs this year but lets look at the numbers...

Scored 20+ in 13 games. 8 teams (including the Giants and Texans who are in the playoffs) didn't average 20 ppg for the season.

Scored 30+ in 9 games.

29.3 ppg for the season, 2nd in the NFL

Meanwhile our defense was 31st in the NFL giving up 28.4 ppg.

By these numbers, the offense had plenty of weeks where they scored enough points. I don't get what your vendetta is with the offense. Sure it wasn't what we've seen when we were at our peak but our offense is better than most. However, you can't overlook how bad the defense has been not only this year but for a while now.

I love this post.

spkb25 · 01-02-2017, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I love this post.

except that half the losses were due to multiple turnovers by the offense. It is shared, unfortunately. Most years it is not, but this year the losses were shared between the O and D. That is just reality

ST helped us to another loss as pointed out by Rail and they contributed on 2 others as well.

Do you know what they call that? ****ty football, undisciplined. Do you know whose fault that is?

The Dude · 01-02-2017, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I love this post.

It's not better than most, it's better than all of the except one.

darstep · 01-01-2017, 11:37 PM

Exactly!
If we hold teams to 2 touchdowns and 2 field goals we are at least 12-4.
And if we are holding teams to 20 or less that's even more possessions for our offense.

WillSaints81 · 01-02-2017, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by darstep

Exactly!
If we hold teams to 2 touchdowns and 2 field goals we are at least 12-4.
And if we are holding teams to 20 or less that's even more possessions for our offense.

Well that's a little hard to do if we turn the ball over don't you think? And you are not gonna hold Brady or Rodgers to 20 without scoring yourself. And now you can add Cam and Ryan to that list. We're not playing 2009 offenses anymore. You can make the argument that Semien was a bad qb but the turnovers led to Denver scoring more points than 13. Brees threw a pick six and Ingram fumbled which led to a FG by KC.

Rell&Gold · 01-02-2017, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Well that's a little hard to do if we turn the ball over don't you think? And you are not gonna hold Brady or Rodgers to 20 without scoring yourself. And now you can add Cam and Ryan to that list. We're not playing 2009 offenses anymore. You can make the argument that Semien was a bad qb but the turnovers led to Denver scoring more points than 13. Brees threw a pick six and Ingram fumbled which led to a FG by KC.

The pic six that went off of Snead's hands

WillSaints81 · 01-02-2017, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

The pic six that went off of Snead's hands

It's still a pick six and still on the offense and I have already more than once brought up Snead in these kinds of games. He's being put in a slot role which does not suit him. I bet if Thomas were over the middle that would be greatly improved and a lot of the big corners will not move from the outside to cover inside either.

01-02-2017, 01:14 AM	#1
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,839	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Originally Posted by spkb25 The Giants, Bucs, Panthers, Chiefs, and Broncos games were all lost by our offense. I disagree with the chiefs and broncos. We gave up 25 and 27 points. Bree's can't win the all. Th def nose should be able to win a game or two.
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01-02-2017, 05:53 AM	#2
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Originally Posted by spkb25 The Giants, Bucs, Panthers, Chiefs, and Broncos games were all lost by our offense. Giants loss was due to ST, Panthers loss ST, Broncos loss ST

01-02-2017, 01:14 AM	#3
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay The offense definitely had their ups and downs this year but lets look at the numbers... Scored 20+ in 13 games. 8 teams (including the Giants and Texans who are in the playoffs) didn't average 20 ppg for the season. Scored 30+ in 9 games. 29.3 ppg for the season, 2nd in the NFL Meanwhile our defense was 31st in the NFL giving up 28.4 ppg. By these numbers, the offense had plenty of weeks where they scored enough points. I don't get what your vendetta is with the offense. Sure it wasn't what we've seen when we were at our peak but our offense is better than most. However, you can't overlook how bad the defense has been not only this year but for a while now. The texans got lucky as hell playing in a crap division. They went 5-1 in division. Guess what their record outside of it was? 4-6. And the giants who did they play? They got lucky with a three game home-stand against a mediocre eagles offense, depleted bengals, and the bears, the awful rams, the inept ravens offense, the browns. Like the saints could not beat THOSE teams. And what makes you think we can be like the giants defense? You really think the giants defense was that bad before or did they quit? They had a culture of being a defensive team. WE WILL NOT HAVE A DEFENSE LIKE THE GIANTS OR TEXANS ANYTIME SOON. The giants have always had a defensive philosophy. And games we scored 30+ in 9 times. Oakland..........okay I'll give you that. Atl...................we lost this one mainly due to the fumble that set the stage. @SD................we won though. Car...................we won as well. @SF..................defense played well too. LA.....................it was a big game for Payton @Arizona..........we won @Atlanta..........13 points first half. Not normal against a bad defense like this team. So defense lost 3 games we scored 30+ in. As for 20+ games(besides those over 30) @KC.....KC actually had 20 offensive points. Would have been 17. This is a team that went 12-4 btw and handed the broncos their behinds last week and won in OT in Denver week 12. Just torched a Bosa led offense. Sea..........we won. Den..........Michael Thomas 3 fumbles and they knew what they were getting their selves into targeting him against a top secondary. And game was lost on special teams. But Brees as usual got off to a slow start. @Car-Car had 3 points before Brees throws a pick six. Offense played poorly all game until the fourth q and wasting a lot of clock. TB....we won and got two interceptions. So tell me again how the offense did enough to win? You don't wait until the second half to score points.

01-02-2017, 09:11 AM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay The offense definitely had their ups and downs this year but lets look at the numbers... Scored 20+ in 13 games. 8 teams (including the Giants and Texans who are in the playoffs) didn't average 20 ppg for the season. Scored 30+ in 9 games. 29.3 ppg for the season, 2nd in the NFL Meanwhile our defense was 31st in the NFL giving up 28.4 ppg. By these numbers, the offense had plenty of weeks where they scored enough points. I don't get what your vendetta is with the offense. Sure it wasn't what we've seen when we were at our peak but our offense is better than most. However, you can't overlook how bad the defense has been not only this year but for a while now. I love this post.

01-02-2017, 09:15 AM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,138	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Originally Posted by halloween 65 I love this post. except that half the losses were due to multiple turnovers by the offense. It is shared, unfortunately. Most years it is not, but this year the losses were shared between the O and D. That is just reality ST helped us to another loss as pointed out by Rail and they contributed on 2 others as well. Do you know what they call that? ****ty football, undisciplined. Do you know whose fault that is?

01-02-2017, 10:23 AM	#6
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Originally Posted by halloween 65 I love this post. It's not better than most, it's better than all of the except one.
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01-01-2017, 11:37 PM	#7
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Exactly! If we hold teams to 2 touchdowns and 2 field goals we are at least 12-4. And if we are holding teams to 20 or less that's even more possessions for our offense.

01-02-2017, 01:37 AM	#8
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Originally Posted by darstep Exactly! If we hold teams to 2 touchdowns and 2 field goals we are at least 12-4. And if we are holding teams to 20 or less that's even more possessions for our offense. Well that's a little hard to do if we turn the ball over don't you think? And you are not gonna hold Brady or Rodgers to 20 without scoring yourself. And now you can add Cam and Ryan to that list. We're not playing 2009 offenses anymore. You can make the argument that Semien was a bad qb but the turnovers led to Denver scoring more points than 13. Brees threw a pick six and Ingram fumbled which led to a FG by KC.

01-02-2017, 06:22 AM	#9
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Well that's a little hard to do if we turn the ball over don't you think? And you are not gonna hold Brady or Rodgers to 20 without scoring yourself. And now you can add Cam and Ryan to that list. We're not playing 2009 offenses anymore. You can make the argument that Semien was a bad qb but the turnovers led to Denver scoring more points than 13. Brees threw a pick six and Ingram fumbled which led to a FG by KC. The pic six that went off of Snead's hands

01-02-2017, 03:16 PM	#10
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Unnerving Brees Quote Originally Posted by Rell&Gold The pic six that went off of Snead's hands It's still a pick six and still on the offense and I have already more than once brought up Snead in these kinds of games. He's being put in a slot role which does not suit him. I bet if Thomas were over the middle that would be greatly improved and a lot of the big corners will not move from the outside to cover inside either.

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