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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Should Ramczyk prove he's more than capable and with the upcoming contracts, you gotta seriously think about moving Armstead next offseason to make cap room... And a team like Chicago would be the perfect trade partner ...

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Old 08-16-2017, 06:11 AM   #1
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

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Should Ramczyk prove he's more than capable and with the upcoming contracts, you gotta seriously think about moving Armstead next offseason to make cap room...

And a team like Chicago would be the perfect trade partner because you'll likely command a second round pick and it'll be one of the first five picks which should yield a more than capable Right Tackle...
My question to this would be the ages of Strief and Unger. If healthy do you trade a proven LT in Armstead and draft a player to play RT to eventually take Striefs spot for the next 10 years or draft a C to eventually take Ungers spot? We basically have 3 LT's with 1 proven to play LG. The rookie isn't proven yet at this level but looks good so far and Strief(as good as he has been) isn't a spring chicken anymore as much as I like him.
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My question to this would be the ages of Strief and Unger. If healthy do you trade a proven LT in Armstead and draft a player to play RT to eventually take Striefs spot for the next 10 years or draft a C to eventually take Ungers spot? We basically have 3 LT's with 1 proven to play LG. The rookie isn't proven yet at this level but looks good so far and Strief(as good as he has been) isn't a spring chicken anymore as much as I like him.
Economics and priorities...

Some of the guys that will need to be extended in the next two years (2018, 2019) are Brees, Vaccaro, Breaux, Peat...

And are we going to have an offensive line of all Left Tackles, when we still seem to need cornerbacks, defensive line, linebackers, tight ends?

And do you wait till his trade stock will yield only a fourth round pick vs a second round pick?

Look, the last three drafts have had several quality offensive linemen, Big Ten Corn-Fed Milk-Farm boys right there at the end of the first and through the first half of the second round...

We'll get a younger, four-five year cap friendly linemen that can play right tackle which is a position that is a helluva lot easier to field than a left tackle...

Armstead, for all his tremendous athleticism, hasn't played a full 16 healthy yet...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

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Economics and priorities...

Some of the guys that will need to be extended in the next two years (2018, 2019) are Brees, Vaccaro, Breaux, Peat...

And are we going to have an offensive line of all Left Tackles, when we still seem to need cornerbacks, defensive line, linebackers, tight ends?

And do you wait till his trade stock will yield only a fourth round pick vs a second round pick?

Look, the last three drafts have had several quality offensive linemen, Big Ten Corn-Fed Milk-Farm boys right there at the end of the first and through the first half of the second round...

We'll get a younger, four-five year cap friendly linemen that can play right tackle which is a position that is a helluva lot easier to field than a left tackle...

Armstead, for all his tremendous athleticism, hasn't played a full 16 healthy yet...
No he hasn't and tell you what though that dude's contract makes him impossible to move. I am not sure when he becomes movable but i feel we are with our man, ride or die, for a few more years. Unless we can have him come back and play well then set up a trade. Just think with his recent injuries we are going to have him for a while.
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No he hasn't and tell you what though that dude's contract makes him impossible to move. I am not sure when he becomes movable but i feel we are with our man, ride or die, for a few more years. Unless we can have him come back and play well then set up a trade. Just think with his recent injuries we are going to have him for a while.
This latest injury is far less worrisome than the knee problems he has had in the past. It had nothing to do with supportive tissues such as tendons, ligaments or muscle. The labrum is nothing more than padding. Who knows, with the extra time off maybe he can come back stronger than ever.
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This latest injury is far less worrisome than the knee problems he has had in the past. It had nothing to do with supportive tissues such as tendons, ligaments or muscle. The labrum is nothing more than padding. Who knows, with the extra time off maybe he can come back stronger than ever.
Yeah might actually give his legs the proper time to fully heal.

That sounded like an awful lot of dead cap if we were to trade him thou.
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Economics and priorities...

Some of the guys that will need to be extended in the next two years (2018, 2019) are Brees, Vaccaro, Breaux, Peat...

And are we going to have an offensive line of all Left Tackles, when we still seem to need cornerbacks, defensive line, linebackers, tight ends?

And do you wait till his trade stock will yield only a fourth round pick vs a second round pick?

Look, the last three drafts have had several quality offensive linemen, Big Ten Corn-Fed Milk-Farm boys right there at the end of the first and through the first half of the second round...

We'll get a younger, four-five year cap friendly linemen that can play right tackle which is a position that is a helluva lot easier to field than a left tackle...

Armstead, for all his tremendous athleticism, hasn't played a full 16 healthy yet...
With Breaux and his injury history I'm not so sure he gets another contract here and I hope like hell they let Vaccarro go after this season. I don't think with the current starters with Armstead at LT we are going to drop off this season but grooming potential players to step in and play (backups) when the aging vets just don't have it anymore would be better in the long run. We don't have nearly the depth at RT and C right now and having to go after a high dollar FA isn't a good move in my opionion. The higher draft picks should be spent on the D side of the ball and a late 1st early 2nd should go toward a TE or WR that don't have stone hands.
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