Should receivers get paid by thier stats?

saintswhodi · 03-22-2005, 09:40 AM

Isn\'t that kinda the same thing though?

No it\'s not kinda even close to the same thing. You are trying to make it the same thing to fit your argument. It\'s not what I meant or said and I expressed that.

You\'ve taken this top five thing too literally. Is plax a top 5 receiver? He\'ll make more than Horn the next 2 years. Unless I have the numbers wrong.

So when a players says \"I want a top 5 contract and I will hold out to get it,\" I shouldn\'t take that literally? How can that be taken too literally when he SAID it. And what does Plax have to do with anything? He doesn\'t play for us. I don\'t care how much more money he gets than Joe Horn, that ain\'t gonna determine how much I would wanna pay JOE HORN.

Same people, totally different team. Did you think I didn\'t know they were in the league the year before? No NFL team is the SAME from one year to the next in the salary cap era. That was my point. Many changes in a team\'s performance are relative to things that happen behind the scenes and the environment being right.
You need to tone it down a bit. You\'re a little quick to jump all over people. Soften it up a bit. I can sling insults and act condescending with the best of em. That\'s not why I\'m here.

How did I jump all over you? By pointing out these were the SAME PLAYERS playing for the SAME TEAM? They didn\'t change coaches, owners, GMs, starting QB starting RB, NOTHING. They are were the same team with great improvement from their players. They made no changes to any key position whatsoever. Why do you wanna argue this point anyway? Seems like you are just looking for reasons to argue, maybe that\'s why the answer was curt? Improvement by the same players on the same team doesn\'t make them a new team, it makes them the same team with improvements.

I mean, look at our last #6 pick...why would I want another one of those?

Yeah, the Chargers picked Ryan Leaf, whatsoever were they thinking even trying with those high draft picks again. They shoulda packed it in and told the league, hey we don\'t wanna try anymore cause we picked a dud in leaf. Give our pick to someone else. Come on dude. The draft is a crap shoot for anyone. I would rather take my chances crap shooting top 5 than late teens if I am not gonna be in the playoffs anyway. You make it seem like we are the only team to ever pick a dud early, doesn\'t mean you stop hoping to land a gem.

03-22-2005, 09:40 AM	#40
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Should receivers get paid by thier stats? Isn\'t that kinda the same thing though? No it\'s not kinda even close to the same thing. You are trying to make it the same thing to fit your argument. It\'s not what I meant or said and I expressed that. You\'ve taken this top five thing too literally. Is plax a top 5 receiver? He\'ll make more than Horn the next 2 years. Unless I have the numbers wrong. So when a players says \"I want a top 5 contract and I will hold out to get it,\" I shouldn\'t take that literally? How can that be taken too literally when he SAID it. And what does Plax have to do with anything? He doesn\'t play for us. I don\'t care how much more money he gets than Joe Horn, that ain\'t gonna determine how much I would wanna pay JOE HORN. Same people, totally different team. Did you think I didn\'t know they were in the league the year before? No NFL team is the SAME from one year to the next in the salary cap era. That was my point. Many changes in a team\'s performance are relative to things that happen behind the scenes and the environment being right. You need to tone it down a bit. You\'re a little quick to jump all over people. Soften it up a bit. I can sling insults and act condescending with the best of em. That\'s not why I\'m here. How did I jump all over you? By pointing out these were the SAME PLAYERS playing for the SAME TEAM? They didn\'t change coaches, owners, GMs, starting QB starting RB, NOTHING. They are were the same team with great improvement from their players. They made no changes to any key position whatsoever. Why do you wanna argue this point anyway? Seems like you are just looking for reasons to argue, maybe that\'s why the answer was curt? Improvement by the same players on the same team doesn\'t make them a new team, it makes them the same team with improvements. I mean, look at our last #6 pick...why would I want another one of those? Yeah, the Chargers picked Ryan Leaf, whatsoever were they thinking even trying with those high draft picks again. They shoulda packed it in and told the league, hey we don\'t wanna try anymore cause we picked a dud in leaf. Give our pick to someone else. Come on dude. The draft is a crap shoot for anyone. I would rather take my chances crap shooting top 5 than late teens if I am not gonna be in the playoffs anyway. You make it seem like we are the only team to ever pick a dud early, doesn\'t mean you stop hoping to land a gem.