CSC: If cut, Saints should welcome Jimmy Graham home with open arms

NonieT · 01-23-2017, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And you know it is soured how? Was it Payton, Graham or Loomis that told you that? They are the only ones that could know that for sure. Anything else is merely supposition.

His comments on twitter told me.

Utah_Saint · 01-24-2017, 12:32 AM

I'd love to have Graham back. Cooks, Thomas, Snead and Graham would be an amazing receiving corp.

I don't think it'll happen though. Even if the Seahawks cut him, he'll still get a pretty penny on the open market.

frydaddy · 01-24-2017, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

His comments on twitter told me.

Yeah I was gonna say.. he's made it quite clear on Twitter on numerous occasions that he's chosen to be a little beotch about it.

RailBoss · 01-24-2017, 01:27 AM

I think the Jimmy Graham ship has sailed and it aint coming back to the Gulf anytime soon.

jeanpierre · 01-24-2017, 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

He was traded for a reason. He was soft and I haven't seen much if any change.

You did watch the video? You did read the comment that he had another decleater like that earlier in the game? You have read and do realize that Seattle would not throw him the ball (include him in offense) until he learned to block and gained the respect of his teammates? Don't know if he'd want to even come back (assuming he'd be released), but he'd definitely be an upgrade over Fleener and damn near the same cost...

spkb25 · 01-24-2017, 04:12 AM

Dude if he comes back at a reasonable rate, why not? How does it hurt to add another weapon. My guess, however, is Seattle extends and renegotiates. Who knows, but I don't see JG coming back. If he does though, who is going to complain. He doesn't drop them like the almighty fleecer

hagan714 · 01-24-2017, 07:06 AM

Fleener has issues but one year there has been signs of hope for next year. While his play on the other hand makes his chance of cashing in on the big bucks in the final 2 years of his mighty thin. Next year is all about the money for both parties.

Cap - dead
2018 $8,000,000 $4,800,000
2019 $9,000,000 $3,200,000
2020 $9,100,000 $1,600,000

Jimmy Graham $10 million cap hit (no dead money involved).

that is amazing. Saints proved one thing. Get that tall TE and enjoy the match up issues they cause. throw it up and hang them out to dry early and often. their shelf life is short so strike while the trade value is good and before they become part of the annual IR rotation

I would not sign him. not for that kind of money. prove you can stay healty contract would be an option

Saints want a solution? trade down pocket some picks and draft
O.J. Howard TE Alabama 6055 251 4.57 #88 Sr

Now you have your out in 2018 to dump Fleener and up grade the blocking in one move. If all works out well then so be it. Fleener does not appear to be the type of player to thrive in a duel TE system. It was a failure in Indi.

AsylumGuido · 01-24-2017, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

His comments on twitter told me.

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Yeah I was gonna say.. he's made it quite clear on Twitter on numerous occasions that he's chosen to be a little beotch about it.

How about posting all of these numerous tweets?

Here, I'll start ...

To: Akiem Nicks - deleted very shortly after posting.

“feel blessed u got out of there. Time to go shine big dog. All the best. Good luck.”

AsylumGuido · 01-24-2017, 09:55 AM

At no other point did Graham come close to being "a little beotch."

AsylumGuido · 01-24-2017, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Fleener has issues but one year there has been signs of hope for next year. While his play on the other hand makes his chance of cashing in on the big bucks in the final 2 years of his mighty thin. Next year is all about the money for both parties.

Cap - dead
2018 $8,000,000 $4,800,000
2019 $9,000,000 $3,200,000
2020 $9,100,000 $1,600,000

Jimmy Graham $10 million cap hit (no dead money involved).

that is amazing. Saints proved one thing. Get that tall TE and enjoy the match up issues they cause. throw it up and hang them out to dry early and often. their shelf life is short so strike while the trade value is good and before they become part of the annual IR rotation

I would not sign him. not for that kind of money. prove you can stay healty contract would be an option

Saints want a solution? trade down pocket some picks and draft
O.J. Howard TE Alabama 6055 251 4.57 #88 Sr

Now you have your out in 2018 to dump Fleener and up grade the blocking in one move. If all works out well then so be it. Fleener does not appear to be the type of player to thrive in a duel TE system. It was a failure in Indi.

Was it a failure because of him or the coaching?

01-23-2017, 11:22 PM	#11
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: CSC: If cut, Saints should welcome Jimmy Graham home with open arms Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And you know it is soured how? Was it Payton, Graham or Loomis that told you that? They are the only ones that could know that for sure. Anything else is merely supposition. His comments on twitter told me. jnormand and frydaddy like this.
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01-24-2017, 12:32 AM	#12
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: CSC: If cut, Saints should welcome Jimmy Graham home with open arms I'd love to have Graham back. Cooks, Thomas, Snead and Graham would be an amazing receiving corp. I don't think it'll happen though. Even if the Seahawks cut him, he'll still get a pretty penny on the open market.

01-24-2017, 01:16 AM	#13
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: CSC: If cut, Saints should welcome Jimmy Graham home with open arms Originally Posted by NonieT His comments on twitter told me. Yeah I was gonna say.. he's made it quite clear on Twitter on numerous occasions that he's chosen to be a little beotch about it. jnormand and Rugby Saint II like this.

01-24-2017, 01:27 AM	#14
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: CSC: If cut, Saints should welcome Jimmy Graham home with open arms I think the Jimmy Graham ship has sailed and it aint coming back to the Gulf anytime soon.

01-24-2017, 01:52 AM	#15
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: CSC: If cut, Saints should welcome Jimmy Graham home with open arms Originally Posted by halloween 65 He was traded for a reason. He was soft and I haven't seen much if any change. You did watch the video? You did read the comment that he had another decleater like that earlier in the game? You have read and do realize that Seattle would not throw him the ball (include him in offense) until he learned to block and gained the respect of his teammates? Don't know if he'd want to even come back (assuming he'd be released), but he'd definitely be an upgrade over Fleener and damn near the same cost... AsylumGuido likes this.

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01-24-2017, 04:12 AM	#16
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: CSC: If cut, Saints should welcome Jimmy Graham home with open arms Dude if he comes back at a reasonable rate, why not? How does it hurt to add another weapon. My guess, however, is Seattle extends and renegotiates. Who knows, but I don't see JG coming back. If he does though, who is going to complain. He doesn't drop them like the almighty fleecer jnormand likes this.

01-24-2017, 07:06 AM	#17
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: CSC: If cut, Saints should welcome Jimmy Graham home with open arms Fleener has issues but one year there has been signs of hope for next year. While his play on the other hand makes his chance of cashing in on the big bucks in the final 2 years of his mighty thin. Next year is all about the money for both parties. Cap - dead 2018 $8,000,000 $4,800,000 2019 $9,000,000 $3,200,000 2020 $9,100,000 $1,600,000 Jimmy Graham $10 million cap hit (no dead money involved). that is amazing. Saints proved one thing. Get that tall TE and enjoy the match up issues they cause. throw it up and hang them out to dry early and often. their shelf life is short so strike while the trade value is good and before they become part of the annual IR rotation I would not sign him. not for that kind of money. prove you can stay healty contract would be an option Saints want a solution? trade down pocket some picks and draft O.J. Howard TE Alabama 6055 251 4.57 #88 Sr Now you have your out in 2018 to dump Fleener and up grade the blocking in one move. If all works out well then so be it. Fleener does not appear to be the type of player to thrive in a duel TE system. It was a failure in Indi. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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01-24-2017, 09:53 AM	#18
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: CSC: If cut, Saints should welcome Jimmy Graham home with open arms Originally Posted by NonieT His comments on twitter told me. Originally Posted by frydaddy Yeah I was gonna say.. he's made it quite clear on Twitter on numerous occasions that he's chosen to be a little beotch about it. How about posting all of these numerous tweets? Here, I'll start ... To: Akiem Nicks - deleted very shortly after posting. “feel blessed u got out of there. Time to go shine big dog. All the best. Good luck.”

01-24-2017, 09:55 AM	#19
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: CSC: If cut, Saints should welcome Jimmy Graham home with open arms At no other point did Graham come close to being "a little beotch."

01-24-2017, 09:56 AM	#20
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: CSC: If cut, Saints should welcome Jimmy Graham home with open arms Originally Posted by hagan714 Fleener has issues but one year there has been signs of hope for next year. While his play on the other hand makes his chance of cashing in on the big bucks in the final 2 years of his mighty thin. Next year is all about the money for both parties. Cap - dead 2018 $8,000,000 $4,800,000 2019 $9,000,000 $3,200,000 2020 $9,100,000 $1,600,000 Jimmy Graham $10 million cap hit (no dead money involved). that is amazing. Saints proved one thing. Get that tall TE and enjoy the match up issues they cause. throw it up and hang them out to dry early and often. their shelf life is short so strike while the trade value is good and before they become part of the annual IR rotation I would not sign him. not for that kind of money. prove you can stay healty contract would be an option Saints want a solution? trade down pocket some picks and draft O.J. Howard TE Alabama 6055 251 4.57 #88 Sr Now you have your out in 2018 to dump Fleener and up grade the blocking in one move. If all works out well then so be it. Fleener does not appear to be the type of player to thrive in a duel TE system. It was a failure in Indi. Was it a failure because of him or the coaching? hagan714 likes this.

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