Fanspeak 2017 NFL Draft Simulator

lee909 · 03-14-2017, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Three things:

2. Name a team with a premier back that has taken the ring in recent history. Pro ball has evolved past that, if it ever was really there. You might pull up Skittles, but he was a product of a great offensive system that no way resembles our great system and a fantastic defense. Nuff said about fantastic defenses....

Ravens and Seahawks

Giants also had a good 1+2 punch with Bradshaw and Jacobs
As do the Pats

halloween 65 · 03-14-2017, 01:45 PM

I like a 1-2 punch. A big back to wear down a D opens up the play action and helps with the time of possession in games. I absolutely love a punisher running up the gut of a D slowly tearing them down, if LF could play a role like that I got no problems at all. Hell I like the back from Texas (talk about a bruiser)but whether we ever get a pure power back in a Payton run O I highly doubt but it would help Brees or life after Brees a little easier.

Cruize · 03-14-2017, 07:12 PM

As I've gone through my mocks, regardless of whom I've chosen, they're always seems to be multiple good players available. The Saints staff will have to try to screw this one up.

S Peppers
TE Njoku
LB McMillan
DE Kpassagnon
C/G Pocic
WR Golladay
CB Robinson

dizzle88 · 03-14-2017, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I like a 1-2 punch. A big back to wear down a D opens up the play action and helps with the time of possession in games. I absolutely love a punisher running up the gut of a D slowly tearing them down, if LF could play a role like that I got no problems at all. Hell I like the back from Texas (talk about a bruiser)but whether we ever get a pure power back in a Payton run O I highly doubt but it would help Brees or life after Brees a little easier.

That's what Chris Ivory was for us, he would just punish anyone trying to stop him at all times. Unfortunately for him, Ingram was available and Ivory was constantly injured. The only thing that consistently stopped Ivory was his own hamstrings, Ingram has developed into a great core player which I think a lot of people overlook.

ChrisXVI · 03-14-2017, 08:40 PM

Sure, I'll take a stab at it. Why not?! Let me preface this by saying this is not necessarily who I want, but what I think we will do based on rumors, speculation and tendencies.

R1P11 EDGE TACO CHARLTON MICHIGAN

R1P32 S OBI MELIFONWU UCONN

R2P10 CB FABIAN MOREAU UCLA

R3P12 QB NATHAN PETERMAN PITTSBURGH

R3P39 EDGE TYUS BOWSER HOUSTON

R6P12 RB ELIJAH MCGUIRE UL LAFAYETTE

R7P11 G ISAAC ASIATA UTAH

burningmetal · 03-15-2017, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Three things:
1. We don't need an RB of that'll go that high in the draft. We have a decent running back already and our needs are really on the other side of the ball -even with some pretty nice free agent signings.
2. Name a team with a premier back that has taken the ring in recent history. Pro ball has evolved past that, if it ever was really there. You might pull up Skittles, but he was a product of a great offensive system that no way resembles our great system and a fantastic defense. Nuff said about fantastic defenses....
3. It's just plain fun to mess with LSU fans.

When did I say I wanted the Saints to draft him? I've said exactly the opposite, a number of times. I was speaking about what kind of player he is, while people like you made statements about him that you can't back up with anything.

So you made a false comment about him playing against "little people", I gave you reasons why that is BS, and you come back with "we don't need a RB"? When I never suggested we did?

For the record, while you might not point to a lot of teams that won the Superbowl with a premier running back, there are very few teams that ever win it without a good running game. Teams just don't employ a feauture back as much as they used to. But as you see with guys like Adrian Peterson, Jamaal Charles, or Arian Foster over the last several years, if you have a really good one, you feature that guy. And those Running backs helped their teams win without much of a QB. There is no doubt that you have to have a QB (except for Denver two years ago) to win it all, but if you can have an elite running back, it makes you that much better. But I never said we should be the team to draft Fournette.

jeanpierre · 03-19-2017, 08:17 AM

One thing the simulator has taught me about this draft is how deep it really is and what can fall through for us at Pick No. 11...

If I were the Saints, I'd be ready with several scenarios to trade back and pick up more picks...

Here's my thoughts on the Top 10...

Black and Gold Blog: What will the Saints options be at No. 11?

jeanpierre · 03-20-2017, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Ravens and Seahawks

Giants also had a good 1+2 punch with Bradshaw and Jacobs
As do the Pats

I'd agree with the Seahawks having the premier back in Beastmode...

...But the Seahawks are overloaded toward the defense, their philosophy...

But the Ravens, G'nats, and Pats all have complementary backs...

jeanpierre · 03-20-2017, 07:41 AM

Okay, I'm of the opinion that if Reuben Foster is off the board when we pick at No. 11, and even if he is, I've got concerns about that shoulder that needs to be re-evaluated pre-draft by our own people, then we should trade back as I really like several players in the second round...

20: R1P20
EDGE TACO CHARLTON
MICHIGAN

32: R1P32
CB FABIAN MOREAU
UCLA

42: R2P10
TE ADAM SHAHEEN
ASHLAND

51: R2P19
S JOSH JONES
NC STATE

76: R3P12
DL EDDIE VANDERDOES
UCLA

103: R3P39
RB MARLON MACK
SOUTH FLORIDA

196: R6P12
LB JORDAN EVANS
OKLAHOMA

229: R7P11
G COREY LEVIN
CHATTANOOGA

TRADES
TRADE PARTNER:
DENVER BRONCOS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 11
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 20
ROUND: 2 PICK: 19

Note: I ignored Lattimore in the first round as I don't believe he'd be there when we pick at No. 11; if he did fall, that'd be a different tale...

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hagan714 · 03-20-2017, 09:03 AM

used fan speak for all settings and got LEONARD FOURNETTE and had to make this pick work

11: R1P11
RB LEONARD FOURNETTE
LSU

32: R1P32
OT GARETT BOLLES
UTAH

42: R2P10
CB QUINCY WILSON
FLORIDA

76: R3P12
WR CHRIS GODWIN
PENN STATE

103: R3P39
S JOSH JONES
NC STATE

196: R6P12
FB FREDDIE STEVENSON
FLORIDA STATE

229: R7P11
LB JORDAN EVANS
OKLAHOMA

The footballs gods we nice to me on the defensive picks

03-14-2017, 12:24 PM	#61
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,820 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Fanspeak 2017 NFL Draft Simulator Originally Posted by Seer1 Three things: 2. Name a team with a premier back that has taken the ring in recent history. Pro ball has evolved past that, if it ever was really there. You might pull up Skittles, but he was a product of a great offensive system that no way resembles our great system and a fantastic defense. Nuff said about fantastic defenses.... Ravens and Seahawks Giants also had a good 1+2 punch with Bradshaw and Jacobs As do the Pats

03-14-2017, 01:45 PM	#62
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Fanspeak 2017 NFL Draft Simulator I like a 1-2 punch. A big back to wear down a D opens up the play action and helps with the time of possession in games. I absolutely love a punisher running up the gut of a D slowly tearing them down, if LF could play a role like that I got no problems at all. Hell I like the back from Texas (talk about a bruiser)but whether we ever get a pure power back in a Payton run O I highly doubt but it would help Brees or life after Brees a little easier.

03-14-2017, 07:12 PM	#63
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Fanspeak 2017 NFL Draft Simulator As I've gone through my mocks, regardless of whom I've chosen, they're always seems to be multiple good players available. The Saints staff will have to try to screw this one up. S Peppers TE Njoku LB McMillan DE Kpassagnon C/G Pocic WR Golladay CB Robinson
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03-14-2017, 07:20 PM	#64
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: Fanspeak 2017 NFL Draft Simulator Originally Posted by halloween 65 I like a 1-2 punch. A big back to wear down a D opens up the play action and helps with the time of possession in games. I absolutely love a punisher running up the gut of a D slowly tearing them down, if LF could play a role like that I got no problems at all. Hell I like the back from Texas (talk about a bruiser)but whether we ever get a pure power back in a Payton run O I highly doubt but it would help Brees or life after Brees a little easier. That's what Chris Ivory was for us, he would just punish anyone trying to stop him at all times. Unfortunately for him, Ingram was available and Ivory was constantly injured. The only thing that consistently stopped Ivory was his own hamstrings, Ingram has developed into a great core player which I think a lot of people overlook. 44Champs likes this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Fanspeak 2017 NFL Draft Simulator Sure, I'll take a stab at it. Why not?! Let me preface this by saying this is not necessarily who I want, but what I think we will do based on rumors, speculation and tendencies. R1P11 EDGE TACO CHARLTON MICHIGAN R1P32 S OBI MELIFONWU UCONN R2P10 CB FABIAN MOREAU UCLA R3P12 QB NATHAN PETERMAN PITTSBURGH R3P39 EDGE TYUS BOWSER HOUSTON R6P12 RB ELIJAH MCGUIRE UL LAFAYETTE R7P11 G ISAAC ASIATA UTAH

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03-15-2017, 02:43 AM	#66
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fanspeak 2017 NFL Draft Simulator Originally Posted by Seer1 Three things: 1. We don't need an RB of that'll go that high in the draft. We have a decent running back already and our needs are really on the other side of the ball -even with some pretty nice free agent signings. 2. Name a team with a premier back that has taken the ring in recent history. Pro ball has evolved past that, if it ever was really there. You might pull up Skittles, but he was a product of a great offensive system that no way resembles our great system and a fantastic defense. Nuff said about fantastic defenses.... 3. It's just plain fun to mess with LSU fans. When did I say I wanted the Saints to draft him? I've said exactly the opposite, a number of times. I was speaking about what kind of player he is, while people like you made statements about him that you can't back up with anything. So you made a false comment about him playing against "little people", I gave you reasons why that is BS, and you come back with "we don't need a RB"? When I never suggested we did? For the record, while you might not point to a lot of teams that won the Superbowl with a premier running back, there are very few teams that ever win it without a good running game. Teams just don't employ a feauture back as much as they used to. But as you see with guys like Adrian Peterson, Jamaal Charles, or Arian Foster over the last several years, if you have a really good one, you feature that guy. And those Running backs helped their teams win without much of a QB. There is no doubt that you have to have a QB (except for Denver two years ago) to win it all, but if you can have an elite running back, it makes you that much better. But I never said we should be the team to draft Fournette.
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03-19-2017, 08:17 AM	#67
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Fanspeak 2017 NFL Draft Simulator One thing the simulator has taught me about this draft is how deep it really is and what can fall through for us at Pick No. 11... If I were the Saints, I'd be ready with several scenarios to trade back and pick up more picks... Here's my thoughts on the Top 10... Black and Gold Blog: What will the Saints options be at No. 11? SmashMouth likes this.

03-20-2017, 07:37 AM	#68
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Fanspeak 2017 NFL Draft Simulator Originally Posted by lee909 Ravens and Seahawks Giants also had a good 1+2 punch with Bradshaw and Jacobs As do the Pats I'd agree with the Seahawks having the premier back in Beastmode... ...But the Seahawks are overloaded toward the defense, their philosophy... But the Ravens, G'nats, and Pats all have complementary backs...

03-20-2017, 07:41 AM	#69
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Fanspeak 2017 NFL Draft Simulator Okay, I'm of the opinion that if Reuben Foster is off the board when we pick at No. 11, and even if he is, I've got concerns about that shoulder that needs to be re-evaluated pre-draft by our own people, then we should trade back as I really like several players in the second round... 20: R1P20 EDGE TACO CHARLTON MICHIGAN 32: R1P32 CB FABIAN MOREAU UCLA 42: R2P10 TE ADAM SHAHEEN ASHLAND 51: R2P19 S JOSH JONES NC STATE 76: R3P12 DL EDDIE VANDERDOES UCLA 103: R3P39 RB MARLON MACK SOUTH FLORIDA 196: R6P12 LB JORDAN EVANS OKLAHOMA 229: R7P11 G COREY LEVIN CHATTANOOGA TRADES TRADE PARTNER: DENVER BRONCOS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 11 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 20 ROUND: 2 PICK: 19 Note: I ignored Lattimore in the first round as I don't believe he'd be there when we pick at No. 11; if he did fall, that'd be a different tale... Ultimate GM and On the Clock Premium: Fanspeak's NFL Tools!
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03-20-2017, 09:03 AM	#70
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Fanspeak 2017 NFL Draft Simulator used fan speak for all settings and got LEONARD FOURNETTE and had to make this pick work 11: R1P11 RB LEONARD FOURNETTE LSU 32: R1P32 OT GARETT BOLLES UTAH 42: R2P10 CB QUINCY WILSON FLORIDA 76: R3P12 WR CHRIS GODWIN PENN STATE 103: R3P39 S JOSH JONES NC STATE 196: R6P12 FB FREDDIE STEVENSON FLORIDA STATE 229: R7P11 LB JORDAN EVANS OKLAHOMA The footballs gods we nice to me on the defensive picks

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