saintswhodi

Cause I am not Stevie Wonder. You can\'t really believe this. How much are you getting paid to make this statement?

blackwidows

Well like it or not Brooks is the only qb to throw for 3,000 yards 4 consecutive seasons to don a Saints uniform. The only qb to run for 100 yards and pass for 400 yards in the next consecutive week. Another thing Brooks will pass Archie Manning this year for the most td passes alltime in a Saints uniform. He is basically the best qb the Saints ever had bar none other than his poor instints. Not to mention the only qb to lead the Saints to a playoff victory.

CONS: Tends to roll back 15 yards than tries to out juke everyone. Forces throws that are not there instead of throwing it away. When the running lane is obvious does not have the instincts to find it when all receivers are covered.

The smiling thing really does not bother me it shoes a high confidence level. I think this is way of telling everyone he thinks he can comeback against any opponents lead which he often does. I would rather him do that than get frustrated and get down on himself.

At the same time he does have poor instincts at times. Thats something you cannot teach is instintcts. What I mean bye instincts is decision making.

Give me brooks over these qbs any day
Billy joe tolliver

billy joe hobert
bobby herbert
fourcade
kilmer
steve wilson
heath shuler
jeff Blake
danny wuerful
delhomme ? since he did not get to start a full season

so this shores up Brooks is the best we ever had. Now i\'m not saying he does not have bad attributes which I listed above. I rest my case on this and I will not respond to another Brooks rant again. The horse has been beaten, ate and turned into waste than ate again.

[Edited on 22/3/2005 by blackwidows]

saintswhodi

First part, Dr. Phil quote of the day, except the shoeing a high confidence level. Second part, probably the most wrong statement ever made about AB. I think we need to define \"often\' in that one.

baronm

just cuz he has the best saints stats doesn\'t mean anything...we haven\'t ever really had a primo quarterback...and we\'ve never had a really deep playoff run...see the correlation.

blackwidows

Well just to adsd another stat and i\'m done with this. AB has the most come from behind to win ratio ever out of all the qbs ever to dawn a Saints uniform. I do think this has alot to do with a good running game the past 6 years though.

saintswhodi

To steal from baron.

GumboBC

The problem many fans have is they have been \"conditioned\" to believe that the QB is most responsible for winning and losing.

They hear terms like \"Field General\" and they think the battles on the field are won and lost by the QB. But, that\'s really not the case.

And it\'s really ashamed that folks can wach football all their lives and not understand this.

I\'ve never seen the NFL keep an offical stat for wins/losses for a QB.

I\'ve never seen a succesful team that only had a great QB.

The best I can tell is that football is the ultimate team game and some folks have their head in the sand. And it really shows!

saintswhodi

I.E. why anyone would blame Brooks for our problems when we could blame the TEAM is beyond me(football is a team game). If you are blaming Brooks, you are blind or don\'t know the NFL(head in the sand). I do cause I have watched it, unlike you guys(I\'ve never seen a successful team that only had a great QB). And what I have found by watching it is if I want, I can take any negative statement about Brooks and find a way to blame someone else for that(the best I can tell is football is the ultimate team game). :P

GumboBC

saintswhodi--

You\'re a big boy here on B&G and I\'m going to give you the cold hard facts.

Brooks has never kept this team from accomplishing anything. And to focus on Brooks when we have about the worst defense in the NFL over the past 4 years is very misguided.

Now, you want to say I\'m defllecting blame from Aaron by talking about the defense. Well, since we know this is a team game and the defense is half the team, it would be foolish not to talk about the defense.

But, the problems don\'t end with the defense. Let\'s put some blame on the offensive line too. Surly you agree with me there. If not, then I\'d have to think you really haven\'t watched too many Saints\' games.

And let\'s not be greedy with the blame. How \'bout this great coaching staff? You know, the one you guys bash on a consistent basis. It seems that this coaching staff has held back every player on the Saints but Aaron Brooks. At least , accoding to popular logic here at B&G.

But, I\'m not blind. I see Brooks struggling. Now, I could be foolish and pin that all on Brooks too. I could refuse to see the other problems on offesne that would affect any QB.

Still -- Brooks has his short-comings. But those problems haven\'t kept the Saints from anything because the other problems have just been too great.

It\'s really ashamed that some fans have been \"conditioned\" to believe that QBs are most responsilble for winning and losing.

saintswhodi

Wow, I almost got drug in. Almost. I could shoot more holes in that than swiss cheese, but no need. You\'ve made your point Gumbo, i\'ll bow out with the knowledge that I disagree. Maybe I will just look up one of those old posts with an AB debate so we can play this out again. Using the same arguments thathave been shot down a month or so ago doesn\'t make them any more valid though. I have a very good memory, especially since I am theone that disputed most of what you are claiming as \"problems that aren\'t AB\'s fault.\" Cheers.