LKelley67

hey, several have been noting the lack of AB ire of late. you don't have go through a thread or two with the veterans here to see where they stand. so rather than go thru the same routine with the same faces let's do it different. it seems there are quite a few faces so let's watch them and hear what they have to say. so for this thread i request only new guys, let's say members with LESS THAN 200 POSTS.

okay, let it hang out. is aaron the talented star needing more support that is the saints ticket to the super bowl? or is he a hinderance from the franchise making substantial progress to the next step?

what sayeth ye seers with less than 200 posts?

jnormand

I used to be on the Brooks bandwagon. I got kind of tired of hearing how he was showing that he might have the leadership the Saints were waiting for and that he just needs to mature and all that. Half the time he puts up decent numbers, the other half of the time, he sucks. He dosen\'t read defenses well. I hate the backward passes and still try to figure out how he actually does that on accident. I don\'t think he is a bad QB....just not the one the Saints can trust to QB them to the SuperBowl. The problem with Brooks is that for all the positives he brings to the game, he screws up so bad or loses the confidence in the team or fans so much, no body really cares about how well he did. Everyone believes that next week will be totally different. He believes he is far better than he really is, and probably believes that HE is the most under rated QB in the NFL. Do I believe Jake Delhomme is better...no. Is he smarter...yes.

I don\'t hate Brooks. I think he is a decent QB sometimes. I\'m just tired of all the baggage.

So where do I stand as far as Brooks:

I really don\'t care if the guy is cut or if he stays. I just would like to draft or aquire a young QB to fill in for Mr. Smiles when they decide to trade, cut or demote him.

bignic26

I\'ve had a few crown and cokes so please forgive me if I make mistakes. To me Aaron Brooks is the ugliest QB in the game. The only QB that\'s even close is Kitna, but he don\'t even start. He\'s got this weird little elfish face and bug eyes that send shivers down my spine. The guy gives me the creeps.

Aside from his godawful looks, the guy is a second rate bum posing as a starter in the NFL. He has no talent, heart, charm, devotion, *****, dedication, etc I could go on all night. :beer2:

The bottom line is this: Brooks = a big pile of ****. He can\'t throw, or run, or make good audibles, or lead, or keep his filthy mouth shut in the papers. He\'s got no class. He\'s a two bit bum who\'s time is about to run out in NO. Just wait till his booty buddy Haslett\'s gone, he\'ll be tap dancing for tips on Bourbon street. Him and his lil sidekick Horn :beer2:

I now intend to prove once and for all that Aaron Brooks defies logic...
Let\'s look at some facts here. I looked at a few QBs who I consider to be in the same class as Brooks. Guys who are either equal to his talent or a little above his talent. I ran some tests using compiled stats and the results were amazing. The other QBs who were as good or slightly better than Brooks aren\'t even in the league anymore. That tells me something right there. The QBs who were the same in talent level (Akili Smith and R.Leaf) seemed to have vanished long ago. The QBs who were slightly better are also gone (Doug Flutie, Tim Couch) If all of these similar players are gone, then why is our big pile of **** still making stupid passes? Just doesn\'t make sense. My tests defied logic, which in turn means that Aaron Brooks defies logic. After all of these years I finally did it, this is my biggest discovery since I proved that Joe was banging Willie\'s wife!!!

Really ?????

[Edited on 22/3/2005 by saintz08]

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turbo_dog

Is there a way to keep this thread invisible from Gumbo? I\'m worried about his head exploding.

:killtard:

bayouking318

I for one believe AB is a ok starter compared to what is out there. My only gripe with AB is if the rumors are true bout him wanting a contract like McNabb, Vick, & Manning he is crazy! I don\'t know if it is true cuz I haven\'t seen any proof behind the rumors.

duece4pres

The first time that I called in to the Buddy D show happened to be his last show. I spoke with him about Brooks and referred to him as garbage. Buddy D ripped into me, and I deserved every bit of it. I said many times at the end of last season that I hated Brooks and that he was terrible. Hey, I\'m a die hard Saints fan. Black and Gold runs through my veigns, so I have a right to vent every once in a while.

I believe, IF THE SAINTS HAVE A RUNNING GAME THIS SEASON, Brooks will be lethal with a balanced attack and an improved line. The defense will be a lot better this year. Take pressure off Brooks and he will bring his A game.

I hope I don\'t eat my words at the end of next season!!

WHO DAT!! WE DAT BABY!!!

GoldenTomb

Buddy D ripped into you for that??? I\'ve heard him say as much, in his own words. I used to be as big an AB fan as any....I still have a gold AB jersey that I wear in the presence of other teams\' fans. I only vent my real opinions to other Saints fans...which is....he is a bum. I don\'t agree with bignic totally, because I think he is one of the most talented QBs in the league. However, he is an example of how far you can get on talent alone, without heart, intelligence, and leadership. He will continue to show glimpses of the superstar that he will never be. Those moments will be enough to keep hope alive for some, but it\'s been 4 years of the same crap and I refuse to believe in him anymore. Maybe he will be good someday, but not for the Saints.

bignic26

Sorry about that last post, I got a little carried away. I was a little tipsy last night and I lost it. I\'m not the biggest Brooks fan, but he\'s all we got. So we might as well stand behind the bum. :casstet:

WhoDat

You guys want Billy in the thread? OK. I\'ll reply... here he comes.

AB is not a terrible NFL QB. He has tremendous raw talent and when he\'s on he can be impressive. Otherwise, he is lacking in a great number of areas that you want and have come to expect from a starting NFL QB.

Performance:
- Can\'t throw a touch pass (which affects the deep ball - can\'t throw a 50 yard laser shot very well - though he does try)

- He can\'t seem to read a defense very well. Billy is gonna tell you that the coaches didn\'t let him. Maybe they didn\'t let him b/c for 4 years he demonstrated that he cannot - and to allow him to do so creates a liability.

- He creates his own pressure. He consistent rolls into the rush, and when he sees pressure coming, rather than slide and keep his eyes down field, he does that retarded spin move or backpeddle, which only makes things worse.

- He is not anywhere near the rushing threat that was initally anticipated. He looks like Gumby out there with his long-a$$ legs flopping around when he runs.

- Maybe his biggest flaw - he can\'t hit a WR in stride to save his life. He is constantly throwing behind WRs, at their feet or way over their heads. Maybe that\'s why our WRs are always hurt - b/c they\'re being led into monster hits (just ask Donte Stallworth or Jerome Pathon about that). He also seems to be more inaccurate at the beginning of games (think that may be why the Saints always started slow out of the blocks?)


Intangibles:
- AB is most lacking in this area. He is in no way a leader. He doesn\'t have much fight in him (a la Favre or Young... or Delhomme ). He isn\'t very smart, which is why he keeps making the same stupid mistakes over and over again. That also explains why he hasn\'t progressed as expected. Generally, you want a QB to be a \"student of the game\" who is also a \"fiery leader\" and \"fierce competitor.\" AB is none of those things.


Compound all that with the fact that AB\'s contract gave him a TOP 5 salary at the time of his signing, and that his pressence has caused the Saints to discard at least Delhomme, Bulger, and O\'Sullivan, and it\'s hard to call AB beneficial to this team. Right now, I can say I hope he stays healthy b/c we\'re screwed without him. But then, you have to ask, if the Saints had had Blake, Delhomme, and Bulger without Brooks - would this ever really have been a problem? Would every good QB the Saints have who might appear to maybe threaten AB\'s role as starter have had to be shipped off? I doubt it.

Billy in... 3... 2...

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