Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots

hagan714 · 03-10-2017, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

a number 1 and 3rd which are really a 2nd and 4th. I still think it's a good deal. Picks 11, 32, 42, 76, 96, 196, 229 we are going to get a great defense this year. We could still get Butler too. Wow we are really putting together a great offseason = GREAT SEASON!

Another way to look at it is this.

Both picks come at the end of the day and teams eying players that are dropping will make a move before the closing of business on that day.

ChrisXVI · 03-10-2017, 07:45 PM

A pretty fair assessment from WalterFootball...

Patriots acquire WR Brandin Cooks, 4th-rounder from Saints for 1st- and 3rd-round picks
My apologies for being slow with these grades Friday evening. I just got home from a wedding rehearsal dinner (my fiancee's sister is getting married tomorrow), and I'll get to all of the grades shortly.

I have to say that despite it being speculated for days now, I'm still shocked that this deal went through. It's kind of crazy that the Patriots will have Brandin Cooks in their offense. I didn't even think they'd be in the market for a receiver because they had Julian Edelman, Chris Hogan, Malcolm Mitchell and maybe Michael Floyd on the roster (plus Rob Gronkowski), but Bill Belichick apparently thought differently.

It's going to be fun to watch Tom Brady have a new weapon like Cooks. He hasn't had a dynamic, downfield threat like Cooks since Randy Moss. It might be instinctive to point out that Cooks could decline because he won't be playing with Drew Brees anymore, until you remember that he'll now be paired with Brady, and there theoretically shouldn't be a drop-off. The price is a bit steep for my blood, but at least New England didn't have to surrender Malcolm Butler.

I like the move for the Patriots, but I think the Saints are the winners of this deal. Cooks made it known that he didn't want to be on the roster anymore, and the Saints have two strong receivers without him in Michael Thomas and Willie Snead. New Orleans now has two first-round selections in a very deep draft, so they can use those picks to improve their woeful defense.

Grade for Patriots - B+
Grade for Saints - A-

rezburna · 03-10-2017, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

A pretty fair assessment from WalterFootball...

Patriots acquire WR Brandin Cooks, 4th-rounder from Saints for 1st- and 3rd-round picks
My apologies for being slow with these grades Friday evening. I just got home from a wedding rehearsal dinner (my fiancee's sister is getting married tomorrow), and I'll get to all of the grades shortly.

I have to say that despite it being speculated for days now, I'm still shocked that this deal went through. It's kind of crazy that the Patriots will have Brandin Cooks in their offense. I didn't even think they'd be in the market for a receiver because they had Julian Edelman, Chris Hogan, Malcolm Mitchell and maybe Michael Floyd on the roster (plus Rob Gronkowski), but Bill Belichick apparently thought differently.

It's going to be fun to watch Tom Brady have a new weapon like Cooks. He hasn't had a dynamic, downfield threat like Cooks since Randy Moss. It might be instinctive to point out that Cooks could decline because he won't be playing with Drew Brees anymore, until you remember that he'll now be paired with Brady, and there theoretically shouldn't be a drop-off. The price is a bit steep for my blood, but at least New England didn't have to surrender Malcolm Butler.

I like the move for the Patriots, but I think the Saints are the winners of this deal. Cooks made it known that he didn't want to be on the roster anymore, and the Saints have two strong receivers without him in Michael Thomas and Willie Snead. New Orleans now has two first-round selections in a very deep draft, so they can use those picks to improve their woeful defense.

Grade for Patriots - B+
Grade for Saints - A-

I suppose it is pretty fair.

frydaddy · 03-10-2017, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

A pretty fair assessment from WalterFootball...

Patriots acquire WR Brandin Cooks, 4th-rounder from Saints for 1st- and 3rd-round picks
My apologies for being slow with these grades Friday evening. I just got home from a wedding rehearsal dinner (my fiancee's sister is getting married tomorrow), and I'll get to all of the grades shortly.

I have to say that despite it being speculated for days now, I'm still shocked that this deal went through. It's kind of crazy that the Patriots will have Brandin Cooks in their offense. I didn't even think they'd be in the market for a receiver because they had Julian Edelman, Chris Hogan, Malcolm Mitchell and maybe Michael Floyd on the roster (plus Rob Gronkowski), but Bill Belichick apparently thought differently.

It's going to be fun to watch Tom Brady have a new weapon like Cooks. He hasn't had a dynamic, downfield threat like Cooks since Randy Moss. It might be instinctive to point out that Cooks could decline because he won't be playing with Drew Brees anymore, until you remember that he'll now be paired with Brady, and there theoretically shouldn't be a drop-off. The price is a bit steep for my blood, but at least New England didn't have to surrender Malcolm Butler.

I like the move for the Patriots, but I think the Saints are the winners of this deal. Cooks made it known that he didn't want to be on the roster anymore, and the Saints have two strong receivers without him in Michael Thomas and Willie Snead. New Orleans now has two first-round selections in a very deep draft, so they can use those picks to improve their woeful defense.

Grade for Patriots - B+
Grade for Saints - A-

I dunno man, I just don't see it like that. Sure we only gave up a 4th rounder, but having to give up anything more when all we get is the dead last pick in the 1st and a 3rd is ridiculous to me. I would've maaaaaaybe given them a 7th rounder, and if they balked at it then I'd tell em to kiss my ass, no deal.

All I'm saying is we better nail it with the #32 pick or this will go down as a sh***y deal.

voodooido · 03-10-2017, 07:50 PM

We got bent over are ran in dry. Cooks which is a top slot wr for the #32 pick and moved up 15 picks into the 3rd. Makes no sense.

lee909 · 03-10-2017, 07:51 PM

I do think Cooks will do well but it should be remembered that teams would be warry of trading for Saints receivers or TE

Meachem
Stills
Jimmy Graham
Brn Watson

All put up career numbers before falling pretty flat if not with him

nola_swammi · 03-10-2017, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

I do think Cooks will do well but it should be remembered that teams would be warry of trading for Saints receivers or TE

Meachem
Stills
Jimmy Graham
Brn Watson

All put up career numbers before falling pretty flat if not with him

The difference is that this time HOF qb to another HOF qb

lee909 · 03-10-2017, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

The difference is that this time HOF qb to another HOF qb

Doesn't mean it will 100% work. Or the system will work for him. Its not like Rivers or Wilson are bad QBs either

WillSaints81 · 03-10-2017, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Doesn't mean it will 100% work. Or the system will work for him. Its not like Rivers or Wilson are bad QBs either

Rivers has actually shown he can't play well without playmaking receivers. He's a good qb with weapond but take them away and he's exposed. Also, Meachem was never a true number one. He never had to deal with the top corners because of Colston and Moore. He was treated as a number one in SD. Wilson's been playing with a bad oline and the seahawks are trying to utilize a offense that does not fit them.

lee909 · 03-10-2017, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Rivers has actually shown he can't play well without playmaking receivers. He's a good qb with weapond but take them away and he's exposed. Also, Meachem was never a true number one. He never had to deal with the top corners because of Colston and Moore. He was treated as a number one in SD. Wilson's been playing with a bad oline and the seahawks are trying to utilize a offense that does not fit them.

And Cooks isnt a number 1
He is just about 5'10 and no team was willing to better the offer the Pats did. The fact that teams would offer a straight up mid round 1st shows teams dont think he is worth what he will be asking for next year.

He is a complentary piece. A Wes Welker that will need Gronk or another true 1 receiver to give him space to work.

The Saints were not paying him north of 10ml a year they would have needed to

03-10-2017, 07:56 PM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by CheramieIII a number 1 and 3rd which are really a 2nd and 4th. I still think it's a good deal. Picks 11, 32, 42, 76, 96, 196, 229 we are going to get a great defense this year. We could still get Butler too. Wow we are really putting together a great offseason = GREAT SEASON! Another way to look at it is this. Both picks come at the end of the day and teams eying players that are dropping will make a move before the closing of business on that day. mleg1972 likes this.

03-10-2017, 07:45 PM	#2
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots A pretty fair assessment from WalterFootball... Patriots acquire WR Brandin Cooks, 4th-rounder from Saints for 1st- and 3rd-round picks My apologies for being slow with these grades Friday evening. I just got home from a wedding rehearsal dinner (my fiancee's sister is getting married tomorrow), and I'll get to all of the grades shortly. I have to say that despite it being speculated for days now, I'm still shocked that this deal went through. It's kind of crazy that the Patriots will have Brandin Cooks in their offense. I didn't even think they'd be in the market for a receiver because they had Julian Edelman, Chris Hogan, Malcolm Mitchell and maybe Michael Floyd on the roster (plus Rob Gronkowski), but Bill Belichick apparently thought differently. It's going to be fun to watch Tom Brady have a new weapon like Cooks. He hasn't had a dynamic, downfield threat like Cooks since Randy Moss. It might be instinctive to point out that Cooks could decline because he won't be playing with Drew Brees anymore, until you remember that he'll now be paired with Brady, and there theoretically shouldn't be a drop-off. The price is a bit steep for my blood, but at least New England didn't have to surrender Malcolm Butler. I like the move for the Patriots, but I think the Saints are the winners of this deal. Cooks made it known that he didn't want to be on the roster anymore, and the Saints have two strong receivers without him in Michael Thomas and Willie Snead. New Orleans now has two first-round selections in a very deep draft, so they can use those picks to improve their woeful defense. Grade for Patriots - B+ Grade for Saints - A- mleg1972, AsylumGuido, rezburna and 1 others like this.
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03-10-2017, 08:01 PM	#4
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,952 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by ChrisXVI A pretty fair assessment from WalterFootball... Patriots acquire WR Brandin Cooks, 4th-rounder from Saints for 1st- and 3rd-round picks My apologies for being slow with these grades Friday evening. I just got home from a wedding rehearsal dinner (my fiancee's sister is getting married tomorrow), and I'll get to all of the grades shortly. I have to say that despite it being speculated for days now, I'm still shocked that this deal went through. It's kind of crazy that the Patriots will have Brandin Cooks in their offense. I didn't even think they'd be in the market for a receiver because they had Julian Edelman, Chris Hogan, Malcolm Mitchell and maybe Michael Floyd on the roster (plus Rob Gronkowski), but Bill Belichick apparently thought differently. It's going to be fun to watch Tom Brady have a new weapon like Cooks. He hasn't had a dynamic, downfield threat like Cooks since Randy Moss. It might be instinctive to point out that Cooks could decline because he won't be playing with Drew Brees anymore, until you remember that he'll now be paired with Brady, and there theoretically shouldn't be a drop-off. The price is a bit steep for my blood, but at least New England didn't have to surrender Malcolm Butler. I like the move for the Patriots, but I think the Saints are the winners of this deal. Cooks made it known that he didn't want to be on the roster anymore, and the Saints have two strong receivers without him in Michael Thomas and Willie Snead. New Orleans now has two first-round selections in a very deep draft, so they can use those picks to improve their woeful defense. Grade for Patriots - B+ Grade for Saints - A- I dunno man, I just don't see it like that. Sure we only gave up a 4th rounder, but having to give up anything more when all we get is the dead last pick in the 1st and a 3rd is ridiculous to me. I would've maaaaaaybe given them a 7th rounder, and if they balked at it then I'd tell em to kiss my ass, no deal. All I'm saying is we better nail it with the #32 pick or this will go down as a sh***y deal. Rsanders24 and Audiotom like this.

03-10-2017, 07:50 PM	#5
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots We got bent over are ran in dry. Cooks which is a top slot wr for the #32 pick and moved up 15 picks into the 3rd. Makes no sense. spkb25, nola_swammi, Rsanders24 and 1 others like this.
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03-10-2017, 07:51 PM	#6
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots I do think Cooks will do well but it should be remembered that teams would be warry of trading for Saints receivers or TE Meachem Stills Jimmy Graham Brn Watson All put up career numbers before falling pretty flat if not with him

03-10-2017, 07:48 PM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by ChrisXVI A pretty fair assessment from WalterFootball... Patriots acquire WR Brandin Cooks, 4th-rounder from Saints for 1st- and 3rd-round picks My apologies for being slow with these grades Friday evening. I just got home from a wedding rehearsal dinner (my fiancee's sister is getting married tomorrow), and I'll get to all of the grades shortly. I have to say that despite it being speculated for days now, I'm still shocked that this deal went through. It's kind of crazy that the Patriots will have Brandin Cooks in their offense. I didn't even think they'd be in the market for a receiver because they had Julian Edelman, Chris Hogan, Malcolm Mitchell and maybe Michael Floyd on the roster (plus Rob Gronkowski), but Bill Belichick apparently thought differently. It's going to be fun to watch Tom Brady have a new weapon like Cooks. He hasn't had a dynamic, downfield threat like Cooks since Randy Moss. It might be instinctive to point out that Cooks could decline because he won't be playing with Drew Brees anymore, until you remember that he'll now be paired with Brady, and there theoretically shouldn't be a drop-off. The price is a bit steep for my blood, but at least New England didn't have to surrender Malcolm Butler. I like the move for the Patriots, but I think the Saints are the winners of this deal. Cooks made it known that he didn't want to be on the roster anymore, and the Saints have two strong receivers without him in Michael Thomas and Willie Snead. New Orleans now has two first-round selections in a very deep draft, so they can use those picks to improve their woeful defense. Grade for Patriots - B+ Grade for Saints - A- I suppose it is pretty fair.

03-10-2017, 07:54 PM	#7
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by lee909 I do think Cooks will do well but it should be remembered that teams would be warry of trading for Saints receivers or TE Meachem Stills Jimmy Graham Brn Watson All put up career numbers before falling pretty flat if not with him The difference is that this time HOF qb to another HOF qb spkb25 and foreverfan like this.

03-10-2017, 08:09 PM	#9
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by lee909 Doesn't mean it will 100% work. Or the system will work for him. Its not like Rivers or Wilson are bad QBs either Rivers has actually shown he can't play well without playmaking receivers. He's a good qb with weapond but take them away and he's exposed. Also, Meachem was never a true number one. He never had to deal with the top corners because of Colston and Moore. He was treated as a number one in SD. Wilson's been playing with a bad oline and the seahawks are trying to utilize a offense that does not fit them.

03-10-2017, 08:17 PM	#10
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Rivers has actually shown he can't play well without playmaking receivers. He's a good qb with weapond but take them away and he's exposed. Also, Meachem was never a true number one. He never had to deal with the top corners because of Colston and Moore. He was treated as a number one in SD. Wilson's been playing with a bad oline and the seahawks are trying to utilize a offense that does not fit them. And Cooks isnt a number 1 He is just about 5'10 and no team was willing to better the offer the Pats did. The fact that teams would offer a straight up mid round 1st shows teams dont think he is worth what he will be asking for next year. He is a complentary piece. A Wes Welker that will need Gronk or another true 1 receiver to give him space to work. The Saints were not paying him north of 10ml a year they would have needed to

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