Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots

lee909 · 03-11-2017, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I've never seen a string of 7-9 seasons like this before in my life

And thats why i agree with the trade
Cooks wasn't going to get us over this slumo. Drew time is running shorter and its time to throw the chips down. Cooks was an expendable assest. The front office took the best offer available and will try to improve the defense. The move up from 4th round to end of the 3rd is a bonus and could be the difference in a player we want.

The offense has lost 1100 yards.
With an improved defense take some yards off. You can easily see Thomas and hopefully Fleener covering a third to half them yards and Ginn can easily be a 4-700 yard receiver.

A new slot receiver/3rd down back will cover the holes too. This isnt loosing a Graham/Colston type thats also a massive red zone threat.

Changes needed made

44Champs · 03-11-2017, 07:34 AM

So SP was just blowing smoke up everyone's a$$ when he said it would take a significant offer to trade away Cooks.

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spkb25 · 03-11-2017, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

And thats why i agree with the trade
Cooks wasn't going to get us over this slumo. Drew time is running shorter and its time to throw the chips down. Cooks was an expendable assest. The front office took the best offer available and will try to improve the defense. The move up from 4th round to end of the 3rd is a bonus and could be the difference in a player we want.

The offense has lost 1100 yards.
With an improved defense take some yards off. You can easily see Thomas and hopefully Fleener covering a third to half them yards and Ginn can easily be a 4-700 yard receiver.

A new slot receiver/3rd down back will cover the holes too. This isnt loosing a Graham/Colston type thats also a massive red zone threat.

Changes needed made

Changes were needed, but we resigned low energy amidst another 7-9 debacle. BC probably not the change we needed. I hope we get a great player at 32, and I hope BC ****s the bed in N.E. I want us to be the winners, I want us to win our division. I am not seeing that we have done any of that.

Our defense stinks because our recent picks and FA moves stink. Sorry, but that's just reality.

spkb25 · 03-11-2017, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

So SP was just blowing smoke up everyone's a$$ when he said it would take a significant offer to trade away Cooks.

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LOL!!

stickman · 03-11-2017, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

So SP was just blowing smoke up everyone's a$$ when he said it would take a significant offer to trade away Cooks.

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What else would he say? He can't tell teams they can have the guy for nothing. Ya gotta play the game, act like you don't want to part with the guy, if they think you are just trying to get rid of him, they aren't going to offer much.

vpheughan · 03-11-2017, 07:55 AM

Let's remember at this time last year the "Experts" were crying because of our poor WR class. "No real #1" By the end of the season it was "The best WR trio in the NFL!!!"

jeanpierre · 03-11-2017, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Alright guys, what do you think?!

We took an unproven prospect with Zona's 20th pick of the draft giving up our 1st round, 27th pick and our 3rd round, 91st pick in 2014...

Now we're sending a Top 5 proven NFL wide receiver, 23yo, healthy and our 4th round, pick 118 to New England, for the Patriots' first round, pick 32 and third round, pick 76...

And as I said on the other thread, it's not realistic to expect to recover Loomis/Payton's reach and overpay to get Cooks, but damn, to have to give up two picks in return again?!?

AND to see that 4th round pick killed by Goodell for Deflategate; why not trade back in the fourth before and get a fifth round pick first - Just, D*mn...

New England NEVER loses in trades...

Forget the salary cap hit by Cooks bonus in a few days, but we've only once seemingly won on a trade (Graham to Seattle) and even that's in jeopardy because we took a near rookie of the year on defense and turned him into a marginal roster player making the trade more even now - Unger has been a gem...

But now, it would seem, the Mickster is back to his old self and buffoonery - Bet Benson would have never let Mickey near his car business back in the day...

Were we ever able to confirm the Titans offer? Are we sending Cooks further away thinking we won't hear his name again? Something's amiss and I'm sure we'll hear Coach P with his doubletalk, new speak spin before long where he says a whole lotta nothing...

This further damns Payton/Loomis' credibility in trade negotiations as now everyone in the league will know they're FOS on standards "it would take a significant offer"?

MFer, C'mon Sean! You're a great X&Os man but stay the f*ck out of the business end of it or you'll be a one-hit wonder...

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spkb25 · 03-11-2017, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Let's remember at this time last year the "Experts" were crying because of our poor WR class. "No real #1" By the end of the season it was "The best WR trio in the NFL!!!"

I remember there was crying by some experts about how we were going to challenge for the division and had improved so much with all the great draft picks. We ended with exactly the same record as the previous 2 seasons, and 3 of the last 4.

**** shinning and a turd polishing

CheramieIII · 03-11-2017, 08:10 AM

Look guys in the end we didn't end up with much less than we gave for Cooks. The draft picks are important this year and Cooks wouldn't have been as important. Thomas would've eaten up a lot of Cooks yards, Snead will take some more and the younger receivers, well their young and will take up the rest of the slack. Maybe we look at another Sproles type and pass, pass, pass! Cooks is a good player but he wouldn't have made us good enough to win the division, now 2 picks on the other hand might? It's a chance we must be able to allow our Saints!

Ashley · 03-11-2017, 08:28 AM

agree with most on here, although we don't like what we did on this trade. This must have been as good as it gets. We have to make changes to set what we want in the end.

03-11-2017, 07:25 AM	#121
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,793 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by spkb25 I've never seen a string of 7-9 seasons like this before in my life And thats why i agree with the trade Cooks wasn't going to get us over this slumo. Drew time is running shorter and its time to throw the chips down. Cooks was an expendable assest. The front office took the best offer available and will try to improve the defense. The move up from 4th round to end of the 3rd is a bonus and could be the difference in a player we want. The offense has lost 1100 yards. With an improved defense take some yards off. You can easily see Thomas and hopefully Fleener covering a third to half them yards and Ginn can easily be a 4-700 yard receiver. A new slot receiver/3rd down back will cover the holes too. This isnt loosing a Graham/Colston type thats also a massive red zone threat. Changes needed made ChrisXVI likes this.
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03-11-2017, 07:34 AM	#122
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots So SP was just blowing smoke up everyone's a$$ when he said it would take a significant offer to trade away Cooks. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
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03-11-2017, 07:42 AM	#123
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by lee909 And thats why i agree with the trade Cooks wasn't going to get us over this slumo. Drew time is running shorter and its time to throw the chips down. Cooks was an expendable assest. The front office took the best offer available and will try to improve the defense. The move up from 4th round to end of the 3rd is a bonus and could be the difference in a player we want. The offense has lost 1100 yards. With an improved defense take some yards off. You can easily see Thomas and hopefully Fleener covering a third to half them yards and Ginn can easily be a 4-700 yard receiver. A new slot receiver/3rd down back will cover the holes too. This isnt loosing a Graham/Colston type thats also a massive red zone threat. Changes needed made Changes were needed, but we resigned low energy amidst another 7-9 debacle. BC probably not the change we needed. I hope we get a great player at 32, and I hope BC ****s the bed in N.E. I want us to be the winners, I want us to win our division. I am not seeing that we have done any of that. Our defense stinks because our recent picks and FA moves stink. Sorry, but that's just reality.

03-11-2017, 07:42 AM	#124
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by 44Champs So SP was just blowing smoke up everyone's a$$ when he said it would take a significant offer to trade away Cooks. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk LOL!!

03-11-2017, 07:43 AM	#125
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,672	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by 44Champs So SP was just blowing smoke up everyone's a$$ when he said it would take a significant offer to trade away Cooks. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk What else would he say? He can't tell teams they can have the guy for nothing. Ya gotta play the game, act like you don't want to part with the guy, if they think you are just trying to get rid of him, they aren't going to offer much. mleg1972 and ChrisXVI like this.

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03-11-2017, 07:58 AM	#127
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Twitter Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Alright guys, what do you think?! We took an unproven prospect with Zona's 20th pick of the draft giving up our 1st round, 27th pick and our 3rd round, 91st pick in 2014... Now we're sending a Top 5 proven NFL wide receiver, 23yo, healthy and our 4th round, pick 118 to New England, for the Patriots' first round, pick 32 and third round, pick 76... And as I said on the other thread, it's not realistic to expect to recover Loomis/Payton's reach and overpay to get Cooks, but damn, to have to give up two picks in return again?!? *AND to see that 4th round pick killed by Goodell for Deflategate; why not trade back in the fourth before and get a fifth round pick first - Just, Dmn... New England NEVER loses in trades... Forget the salary cap hit by Cooks bonus in a few days, but we've only once seemingly won on a trade (Graham to Seattle) and even that's in jeopardy because we took a near rookie of the year on defense and turned him into a marginal roster player making the trade more even now - Unger has been a gem... But now, it would seem, the Mickster is back to his old self and buffoonery - Bet Benson would have never let Mickey near his car business back in the day... Were we ever able to confirm the Titans offer? Are we sending Cooks further away thinking we won't hear his name again? Something's amiss and I'm sure we'll hear Coach P with his doubletalk, new speak spin before long where he says a whole lotta nothing... This further damns Payton/Loomis' credibility in trade negotiations as now everyone in the league will know they're FOS on standards "it would take a significant offer"?** MFer, C'mon Sean! You're a great X&Os man but stay the f*ck out of the business end of it or you'll be a one-hit wonder... spkb25 likes this.
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03-11-2017, 08:04 AM	#128
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by vpheughan Let's remember at this time last year the "Experts" were crying because of our poor WR class. "No real #1" By the end of the season it was "The best WR trio in the NFL!!!" I remember there was crying by some experts about how we were going to challenge for the division and had improved so much with all the great draft picks. We ended with exactly the same record as the previous 2 seasons, and 3 of the last 4. **** shinning and a turd polishing

03-11-2017, 08:10 AM	#129
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,480 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Look guys in the end we didn't end up with much less than we gave for Cooks. The draft picks are important this year and Cooks wouldn't have been as important. Thomas would've eaten up a lot of Cooks yards, Snead will take some more and the younger receivers, well their young and will take up the rest of the slack. Maybe we look at another Sproles type and pass, pass, pass! Cooks is a good player but he wouldn't have made us good enough to win the division, now 2 picks on the other hand might? It's a chance we must be able to allow our Saints!
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03-11-2017, 08:28 AM	#130
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots agree with most on here, although we don't like what we did on this trade. This must have been as good as it gets. We have to make changes to set what we want in the end.

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