Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots

stickman · 03-11-2017, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

So SP was just blowing smoke up everyone's a$$ when he said it would take a significant offer to trade away Cooks.

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What else would he say? He can't tell teams they can have the guy for nothing. Ya gotta play the game, act like you don't want to part with the guy, if they think you are just trying to get rid of him, they aren't going to offer much.

44Champs · 03-12-2017, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by stickman

What else would he say? He can't tell teams they can have the guy for nothing. Ya gotta play the game, act like you don't want to part with the guy, if they think you are just trying to get rid of him, they aren't going to offer much.

I think he absolutely said the right thing. He just didnt stick to his words.

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vpheughan · 03-11-2017, 07:55 AM

Let's remember at this time last year the "Experts" were crying because of our poor WR class. "No real #1" By the end of the season it was "The best WR trio in the NFL!!!"

spkb25 · 03-11-2017, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Let's remember at this time last year the "Experts" were crying because of our poor WR class. "No real #1" By the end of the season it was "The best WR trio in the NFL!!!"

I remember there was crying by some experts about how we were going to challenge for the division and had improved so much with all the great draft picks. We ended with exactly the same record as the previous 2 seasons, and 3 of the last 4.

**** shinning and a turd polishing

jeanpierre · 03-11-2017, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Alright guys, what do you think?!

We took an unproven prospect with Zona's 20th pick of the draft giving up our 1st round, 27th pick and our 3rd round, 91st pick in 2014...

Now we're sending a Top 5 proven NFL wide receiver, 23yo, healthy and our 4th round, pick 118 to New England, for the Patriots' first round, pick 32 and third round, pick 76...

And as I said on the other thread, it's not realistic to expect to recover Loomis/Payton's reach and overpay to get Cooks, but damn, to have to give up two picks in return again?!?

AND to see that 4th round pick killed by Goodell for Deflategate; why not trade back in the fourth before and get a fifth round pick first - Just, D*mn...

New England NEVER loses in trades...

Forget the salary cap hit by Cooks bonus in a few days, but we've only once seemingly won on a trade (Graham to Seattle) and even that's in jeopardy because we took a near rookie of the year on defense and turned him into a marginal roster player making the trade more even now - Unger has been a gem...

But now, it would seem, the Mickster is back to his old self and buffoonery - Bet Benson would have never let Mickey near his car business back in the day...

Were we ever able to confirm the Titans offer? Are we sending Cooks further away thinking we won't hear his name again? Something's amiss and I'm sure we'll hear Coach P with his doubletalk, new speak spin before long where he says a whole lotta nothing...

This further damns Payton/Loomis' credibility in trade negotiations as now everyone in the league will know they're FOS on standards "it would take a significant offer"?

MFer, C'mon Sean! You're a great X&Os man but stay the f*ck out of the business end of it or you'll be a one-hit wonder...

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CheramieIII · 03-11-2017, 08:10 AM

Look guys in the end we didn't end up with much less than we gave for Cooks. The draft picks are important this year and Cooks wouldn't have been as important. Thomas would've eaten up a lot of Cooks yards, Snead will take some more and the younger receivers, well their young and will take up the rest of the slack. Maybe we look at another Sproles type and pass, pass, pass! Cooks is a good player but he wouldn't have made us good enough to win the division, now 2 picks on the other hand might? It's a chance we must be able to allow our Saints!

spkb25 · 03-11-2017, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Look guys in the end we didn't end up with much less than we gave for Cooks. The draft picks are important this year and Cooks wouldn't have been as important. Thomas would've eaten up a lot of Cooks yards, Snead will take some more and the younger receivers, well their young and will take up the rest of the slack. Maybe we look at another Sproles type and pass, pass, pass! Cooks is a good player but he wouldn't have made us good enough to win the division, now 2 picks on the other hand might? It's a chance we must be able to allow our Saints!

We didn't get two picks, why do people keep perpetuating that lie on here?

Ashley · 03-11-2017, 08:28 AM

agree with most on here, although we don't like what we did on this trade. This must have been as good as it gets. We have to make changes to set what we want in the end.

Danno · 03-11-2017, 08:31 AM

I read Cooks got into a shouting match with coaches after the Ram game.

A malcontent that was gone next year for a big asking price. We didn't have much leverage and 31 other teams probably knew it.

I'm guessing the extended wait Friday was we were trying to get the best deal. This was the best deal on the table

Seer1 · 03-11-2017, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I read Cooks got into a shouting match with coaches after the Ram game.

A malcontent that was gone next year for a big asking price. We didn't have much leverage and 31 other teams probably knew it.

I'm guessing the extended wait Friday was we were trying to get the best deal. This was the best deal on the table

It does make me wonder if he was going to be released ASAP anyways. If so, we got an extra draft pick in the first and moved up a few spaces from the fourth to the end of the third. I know I was all starry eyed thinking about getting one of the Titans first rounders and this or that player, but if we were getting rid of him regardless then hey. We came out okay... maybe even better than okay.

03-12-2017, 08:37 PM	#2
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by stickman What else would he say? He can't tell teams they can have the guy for nothing. Ya gotta play the game, act like you don't want to part with the guy, if they think you are just trying to get rid of him, they aren't going to offer much. I think he absolutely said the right thing. He just didnt stick to his words. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
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03-11-2017, 07:55 AM	#3
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,543	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Let's remember at this time last year the "Experts" were crying because of our poor WR class. "No real #1" By the end of the season it was "The best WR trio in the NFL!!!"
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03-11-2017, 08:04 AM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by vpheughan Let's remember at this time last year the "Experts" were crying because of our poor WR class. "No real #1" By the end of the season it was "The best WR trio in the NFL!!!" I remember there was crying by some experts about how we were going to challenge for the division and had improved so much with all the great draft picks. We ended with exactly the same record as the previous 2 seasons, and 3 of the last 4. **** shinning and a turd polishing

03-11-2017, 07:58 AM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Twitter Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Alright guys, what do you think?! We took an unproven prospect with Zona's 20th pick of the draft giving up our 1st round, 27th pick and our 3rd round, 91st pick in 2014... Now we're sending a Top 5 proven NFL wide receiver, 23yo, healthy and our 4th round, pick 118 to New England, for the Patriots' first round, pick 32 and third round, pick 76... And as I said on the other thread, it's not realistic to expect to recover Loomis/Payton's reach and overpay to get Cooks, but damn, to have to give up two picks in return again?!? *AND to see that 4th round pick killed by Goodell for Deflategate; why not trade back in the fourth before and get a fifth round pick first - Just, Dmn... New England NEVER loses in trades... Forget the salary cap hit by Cooks bonus in a few days, but we've only once seemingly won on a trade (Graham to Seattle) and even that's in jeopardy because we took a near rookie of the year on defense and turned him into a marginal roster player making the trade more even now - Unger has been a gem... But now, it would seem, the Mickster is back to his old self and buffoonery - Bet Benson would have never let Mickey near his car business back in the day... Were we ever able to confirm the Titans offer? Are we sending Cooks further away thinking we won't hear his name again? Something's amiss and I'm sure we'll hear Coach P with his doubletalk, new speak spin before long where he says a whole lotta nothing... This further damns Payton/Loomis' credibility in trade negotiations as now everyone in the league will know they're FOS on standards "it would take a significant offer"?** MFer, C'mon Sean! You're a great X&Os man but stay the f*ck out of the business end of it or you'll be a one-hit wonder... spkb25 likes this.
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03-11-2017, 08:10 AM	#6
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,490 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Look guys in the end we didn't end up with much less than we gave for Cooks. The draft picks are important this year and Cooks wouldn't have been as important. Thomas would've eaten up a lot of Cooks yards, Snead will take some more and the younger receivers, well their young and will take up the rest of the slack. Maybe we look at another Sproles type and pass, pass, pass! Cooks is a good player but he wouldn't have made us good enough to win the division, now 2 picks on the other hand might? It's a chance we must be able to allow our Saints!
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03-11-2017, 07:43 AM	#1
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,754	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by 44Champs So SP was just blowing smoke up everyone's a$$ when he said it would take a significant offer to trade away Cooks. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk What else would he say? He can't tell teams they can have the guy for nothing. Ya gotta play the game, act like you don't want to part with the guy, if they think you are just trying to get rid of him, they aren't going to offer much. mleg1972 and ChrisXVI like this.

03-11-2017, 10:17 AM	#7
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by CheramieIII Look guys in the end we didn't end up with much less than we gave for Cooks. The draft picks are important this year and Cooks wouldn't have been as important. Thomas would've eaten up a lot of Cooks yards, Snead will take some more and the younger receivers, well their young and will take up the rest of the slack. Maybe we look at another Sproles type and pass, pass, pass! Cooks is a good player but he wouldn't have made us good enough to win the division, now 2 picks on the other hand might? It's a chance we must be able to allow our Saints! We didn't get two picks, why do people keep perpetuating that lie on here? nola_swammi, Rsanders24 and voodooido like this.

03-11-2017, 08:28 AM	#8
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots agree with most on here, although we don't like what we did on this trade. This must have been as good as it gets. We have to make changes to set what we want in the end.

03-11-2017, 08:31 AM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots I read Cooks got into a shouting match with coaches after the Ram game. A malcontent that was gone next year for a big asking price. We didn't have much leverage and 31 other teams probably knew it. I'm guessing the extended wait Friday was we were trying to get the best deal. This was the best deal on the table

03-11-2017, 08:36 AM	#10
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by Danno I read Cooks got into a shouting match with coaches after the Ram game. A malcontent that was gone next year for a big asking price. We didn't have much leverage and 31 other teams probably knew it. I'm guessing the extended wait Friday was we were trying to get the best deal. This was the best deal on the table It does make me wonder if he was going to be released ASAP anyways. If so, we got an extra draft pick in the first and moved up a few spaces from the fourth to the end of the third. I know I was all starry eyed thinking about getting one of the Titans first rounders and this or that player, but if we were getting rid of him regardless then hey. We came out okay... maybe even better than okay. SaintFanInATLHELL, Danno and AsylumGuido like this.

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