Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots

WillSaints81 · 03-10-2017, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

I do think Cooks will do well but it should be remembered that teams would be warry of trading for Saints receivers or TE

Meachem
Stills
Jimmy Graham
Brn Watson

All put up career numbers before falling pretty flat if not with him

1.Meachem was a overrated receiver to begin with and never lived up to his worth as a first rounder.
2.Stills has actually done pretty well for a number three receiver.
3.Graham's still on the same team he was traded to.
4.Watson got hurt, so who knows what happens with him healthy.

nola_swammi · 03-10-2017, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by aquaboogie

Even though Cooks is a great player, He is not worth the contract he was going to command in the future. In the meantime the potential locker room disruptions could possibly be catastrophic. Hopefully the Defense will be improved as a result. With Brees approaching the end of his career, having money tied up in a skilled position player with no defense and possibly an below average QB would not be a good thing.

I was thinking the same but like selling your old car you want top dollar for it, you don't give it away

WillSaints81 · 03-10-2017, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Doesn't mean it will 100% work. Or the system will work for him. Its not like Rivers or Wilson are bad QBs either

Rivers has actually shown he can't play well without playmaking receivers. He's a good qb with weapond but take them away and he's exposed. Also, Meachem was never a true number one. He never had to deal with the top corners because of Colston and Moore. He was treated as a number one in SD. Wilson's been playing with a bad oline and the seahawks are trying to utilize a offense that does not fit them.

lee909 · 03-10-2017, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

1.Meachem was a overrated receiver to begin with and never lived up to his worth as a first rounder.
2.Stills has actually done pretty well for a number three receiver.
3.Graham's still on the same team he was traded to.
4.Watson got hurt, so who knows what happens with him healthy.

Graham has been a bust for Seattle

Watson has never put up numbers he did with Brees and he was an old vet when he came here,he wasnt getting better

Stills hasnt come close to 1000 yards again.

Meachem was still productive under Brees. Was generally good for 6/700 yards. Goes to Chargers and just breaks 200

spkb25 · 03-10-2017, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

I do think Cooks will do well but it should be remembered that teams would be warry of trading for Saints receivers or TE

Meachem
Stills
Jimmy Graham
Brn Watson

All put up career numbers before falling pretty flat if not with him

yeah none of them went to tom brady and watson got hurt, not exactly the same thing

WillSaints81 · 03-10-2017, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Graham has been a bust for Seattle

Watson has never put up numbers he did with Brees and he was an old vet when he came here,he wasnt getting better

Stills hasnt come close to 1000 yards again.

Meachem was still productive under Brees. Was generally good for 6/700 yards. Goes to Chargers and just breaks 200

Stills has more TDs for Miami last year than he did with NO in either of his two seasons.

lee909 · 03-10-2017, 09:14 PM

See post above

Watson had been in the league 9 years before joining the Saints. Spent two years as a back up. Plays full time with Drew for a year and put up career numbers at 34/35.

Remember 6 of them years in the league were with Brady

lee909 · 03-10-2017, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Rivers has actually shown he can't play well without playmaking receivers. He's a good qb with weapond but take them away and he's exposed. Also, Meachem was never a true number one. He never had to deal with the top corners because of Colston and Moore. He was treated as a number one in SD. Wilson's been playing with a bad oline and the seahawks are trying to utilize a offense that does not fit them.

And Cooks isnt a number 1
He is just about 5'10 and no team was willing to better the offer the Pats did. The fact that teams would offer a straight up mid round 1st shows teams dont think he is worth what he will be asking for next year.

He is a complentary piece. A Wes Welker that will need Gronk or another true 1 receiver to give him space to work.

The Saints were not paying him north of 10ml a year they would have needed to

nola_swammi · 03-10-2017, 09:19 PM

I reaaaaaaallllllllllyyyyyyy hope we don't trade anything for Butler. NE screwed us enough on this trade, even a Texans/ Browns trade for butler will not be beneficial for us

spkb25 · 03-10-2017, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

And Cooks isnt a number 1
He is just about 5'10 and no team was willing to better the offer the Pats did. The fact that teams would offer a straight up mid round 1st shows teams dont think he is worth what he will be asking for next year.

He is a complentary piece. A Wes Welker that will need Gronk or another true 1 receiver to give him space to work.

The Saints were not paying him north of 10ml a year they would have needed to

he will have 85-90 catches next year and 1200 yards. We got hosed. Good thing we signed low energy when we did, 7-9 could have got away

03-10-2017, 09:04 PM	#71
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by lee909 I do think Cooks will do well but it should be remembered that teams would be warry of trading for Saints receivers or TE Meachem Stills Jimmy Graham Brn Watson All put up career numbers before falling pretty flat if not with him 1.Meachem was a overrated receiver to begin with and never lived up to his worth as a first rounder. 2.Stills has actually done pretty well for a number three receiver. 3.Graham's still on the same team he was traded to. 4.Watson got hurt, so who knows what happens with him healthy.

03-10-2017, 09:05 PM	#72
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by aquaboogie Even though Cooks is a great player, He is not worth the contract he was going to command in the future. In the meantime the potential locker room disruptions could possibly be catastrophic. Hopefully the Defense will be improved as a result. With Brees approaching the end of his career, having money tied up in a skilled position player with no defense and possibly an below average QB would not be a good thing. I was thinking the same but like selling your old car you want top dollar for it, you don't give it away spkb25 likes this.

03-10-2017, 09:09 PM	#73
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by lee909 Doesn't mean it will 100% work. Or the system will work for him. Its not like Rivers or Wilson are bad QBs either Rivers has actually shown he can't play well without playmaking receivers. He's a good qb with weapond but take them away and he's exposed. Also, Meachem was never a true number one. He never had to deal with the top corners because of Colston and Moore. He was treated as a number one in SD. Wilson's been playing with a bad oline and the seahawks are trying to utilize a offense that does not fit them.

03-10-2017, 09:10 PM	#74
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by WillSaints81 1.Meachem was a overrated receiver to begin with and never lived up to his worth as a first rounder. 2.Stills has actually done pretty well for a number three receiver. 3.Graham's still on the same team he was traded to. 4.Watson got hurt, so who knows what happens with him healthy. Graham has been a bust for Seattle Watson has never put up numbers he did with Brees and he was an old vet when he came here,he wasnt getting better Stills hasnt come close to 1000 yards again. Meachem was still productive under Brees. Was generally good for 6/700 yards. Goes to Chargers and just breaks 200

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by lee909 I do think Cooks will do well but it should be remembered that teams would be warry of trading for Saints receivers or TE Meachem Stills Jimmy Graham Brn Watson All put up career numbers before falling pretty flat if not with him yeah none of them went to tom brady and watson got hurt, not exactly the same thing Rsanders24 likes this.

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03-10-2017, 09:11 PM	#76
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by lee909 Graham has been a bust for Seattle Watson has never put up numbers he did with Brees and he was an old vet when he came here,he wasnt getting better Stills hasnt come close to 1000 yards again. Meachem was still productive under Brees. Was generally good for 6/700 yards. Goes to Chargers and just breaks 200 Stills has more TDs for Miami last year than he did with NO in either of his two seasons. Rsanders24 likes this.

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots See post above Watson had been in the league 9 years before joining the Saints. Spent two years as a back up. Plays full time with Drew for a year and put up career numbers at 34/35. Remember 6 of them years in the league were with Brady

03-10-2017, 09:17 PM	#78
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Rivers has actually shown he can't play well without playmaking receivers. He's a good qb with weapond but take them away and he's exposed. Also, Meachem was never a true number one. He never had to deal with the top corners because of Colston and Moore. He was treated as a number one in SD. Wilson's been playing with a bad oline and the seahawks are trying to utilize a offense that does not fit them. And Cooks isnt a number 1 He is just about 5'10 and no team was willing to better the offer the Pats did. The fact that teams would offer a straight up mid round 1st shows teams dont think he is worth what he will be asking for next year. He is a complentary piece. A Wes Welker that will need Gronk or another true 1 receiver to give him space to work. The Saints were not paying him north of 10ml a year they would have needed to

03-10-2017, 09:19 PM	#79
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Brandin Cooks Officially Traded to Patriots I reaaaaaaallllllllllyyyyyyy hope we don't trade anything for Butler. NE screwed us enough on this trade, even a Texans/ Browns trade for butler will not be beneficial for us spkb25, Rsanders24, SmashMouth and 1 others like this.

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