Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday!

NonieT · 03-16-2017, 09:59 AM

Sorry, but I have a bad feeling about all of this. Saints should tell the Patroits to keep Butler. I'd rather take my chances with a rookie CB.

AsylumGuido · 03-16-2017, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Sorry, but I have a bad feeling about all of this. Saints should tell the Patroits to keep Butler. I'd rather take my chances with a rookie CB.

No matter how talented they may be, it is very rare for a rookie CB to be very effective. It takes most of them a couple of years to get up to NFL speed. A good veteran CB is more valuable than a potentially very good rookie CB if you are wanting to win NOW.

NonieT · 03-16-2017, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No matter how talented they may be, it is very rare for a rookie CB to be very effective. It takes most of them a couple of years to get up to NFL speed. A good veteran CB is more valuable than a potentially very good rookie CB if you are wanting to win NOW.

That may be but I can't shake the feeling that this is a bad idea. God I hope I'm wrong.

voodooido · 03-16-2017, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No matter how talented they may be, it is very rare for a rookie CB to be very effective. It takes most of them a couple of years to get up to NFL speed. A good veteran CB is more valuable than a potentially very good rookie CB if you are wanting to win NOW.

Last one I remember being a force was Patrick Peterson. 2 Ints and a sack his first year. Most of his impact came on special teams though where he had 4 tds.

BusDriver · 03-16-2017, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Last one I remember being a force was Patrick Peterson. 2 Ints and a sack his first year. Most of his impact came on special teams though where he had 4 tds.

KC Chiefs, Marcus Peters, is the last corner to have major impact his rookie year, at least that I can remember.

Seer1 · 03-16-2017, 11:47 AM

Growing a little tired of the speculation here. Anyone speculate we'll have a definitive answer to argue about soon?

jeanpierre · 03-16-2017, 01:08 PM

jeanpierre · 03-16-2017, 01:15 PM

All this would've been moot had we taken Marcus Peters in 2015 when we had a clear need and he was BPA...

Glad we got Peat, but did we really need two Left Tackles?

jeanpierre · 03-16-2017, 01:15 PM

AsylumGuido · 03-16-2017, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/842429803257036800

Oh, Hell. It's Ian Fullacrap. Guess the deal is going to fall through. Can't remember the last time he threw crap against the wall and it actually stuck ... unless he's simply repeating what he heard from a respectable journalist.

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