Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday!

Rugby Saint II · 04-18-2017, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Please don't let the Pats do a mind job on you Payton. Hold your ground for hells sake!!!

Don't forget about the calming influence Ireland has in the war room. Stick to your guns for the second rounder and a player we don't need that they like.

Euphoria · 04-18-2017, 06:22 PM

Ugh, I am not happy about this as the draft nears...

ChrisXVI · 04-18-2017, 06:43 PM

I've always believed that #32 was a placeholder for Butler. Which is fine because we'd blow that pick on some 3rd round prospect.

spkb25 · 04-19-2017, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I've always believed that #32 was a placeholder for Butler. Which is fine because we'd blow that pick on some 3rd round prospect.

No we would not, we would pick some uknown out of the Canadian semi-pro league. You're such a negativity nancy

triman · 04-18-2017, 07:06 PM

Pro bowl CB M. Butler for #42 Huge Win
For # 32 is really trading Cooks for Butler not nearly as good but not terrible.
Butler is much more of a sure thing than any rookie and is game ready now!
Day one Butler makes us a better Defense!
Salary is a big concern.
I am wondering if we wait and see how the draft plays out before we pull the trigger on this trade
I am wondering why we did not go harder at some of the other FA CB

The Dude · 04-18-2017, 08:01 PM

Yea to me it's obvious that Payton is too eager to make this happen. Payton sees a player he wants and like a crackhead try's his damndest to make it happen. Billicheck knows he has Payton over a barrel. I would like to see him here but only at the right cost. Should have packaged it in with Cooks deal.

NonieT · 04-18-2017, 08:27 PM

Saints should keep all of their picks. If they want Butler so bad they can always overpay him next season.

AsylumGuido · 04-18-2017, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Yea to me it's obvious that Payton is too eager to make this happen. Payton sees a player he wants and like a crackhead try's his damndest to make it happen. Billicheck knows he has Payton over a barrel. I would like to see him here but only at the right cost. Should have packaged it in with Cooks deal.

Do you not get it yet? You have had the whole thing explained several times. Nothing could be done until Butler was under contract so he could NEVER be part of the Cooks deal. You CANNOT trade a player not under contract.

Do you have a clue how it works at all?

The Dude · 04-19-2017, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Do you not get it yet? You have had the whole thing explained several times. Nothing could be done until Butler was under contract so he could NEVER be part of the Cooks deal. You CANNOT trade a player not under contract.

Do you have a clue how it works at all?

No I get it. They could have signed him for the sole reason of trading. him at the time. Teams do it all the time jackass. They could have hashed it out before FA even began.

Also, the analysts were saying Sherman could cost less, like a second . Yes he's older but he would def be shut down for a couple of years. If we are in win now mode I say go that route.

AsylumGuido · 04-19-2017, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

No I get it. They could have signed him for the sole reason of trading. him at the time. Teams do it all the time jackass. They could have hashed it out before FA even began.

Also, the analysts were saying Sherman could cost less, like a second . Yes he's older but he would def be shut down for a couple of years. If we are in win now mode I say go that route.

No, you still don't get it. The Patriots had no say in the matter. They had a tender on Butler. Butler had not signed the tender, so he wasn't under contract. The Patriots couldn't just "sign him for the sole reason of trading him at the time." The Patriots couldn't do squat until Butler decided to sign the tender, which he just did weeks later.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,138	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I've always believed that #32 was a placeholder for Butler. Which is fine because we'd blow that pick on some 3rd round prospect. No we would not, we would pick some uknown out of the Canadian semi-pro league. You're such a negativity nancy

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by The Dude Yea to me it's obvious that Payton is too eager to make this happen. Payton sees a player he wants and like a crackhead try's his damndest to make it happen. Billicheck knows he has Payton over a barrel. I would like to see him here but only at the right cost. Should have packaged it in with Cooks deal. Do you not get it yet? You have had the whole thing explained several times. Nothing could be done until Butler was under contract so he could NEVER be part of the Cooks deal. You CANNOT trade a player not under contract. Do you have a clue how it works at all?

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Do you not get it yet? You have had the whole thing explained several times. Nothing could be done until Butler was under contract so he could NEVER be part of the Cooks deal. You CANNOT trade a player not under contract. Do you have a clue how it works at all? No I get it. They could have signed him for the sole reason of trading. him at the time. Teams do it all the time jackass. They could have hashed it out before FA even began. Also, the analysts were saying Sherman could cost less, like a second . Yes he's older but he would def be shut down for a couple of years. If we are in win now mode I say go that route.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by The Dude No I get it. They could have signed him for the sole reason of trading. him at the time. Teams do it all the time jackass. They could have hashed it out before FA even began. Also, the analysts were saying Sherman could cost less, like a second . Yes he's older but he would def be shut down for a couple of years. If we are in win now mode I say go that route. No, you still don't get it. The Patriots had no say in the matter. They had a tender on Butler. Butler had not signed the tender, so he wasn't under contract. The Patriots couldn't just "sign him for the sole reason of trading him at the time." The Patriots couldn't do squat until Butler decided to sign the tender, which he just did weeks later.

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