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K Major 04-19-2017 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 745093)
I don't think Butler is worthless. He's a good corner. But idk how to feel about him if we give the #32 back. I guess for me it'll depend on how much his contact is going to cost.
Agreed on all points J.

Chandler Jones played well out in Arizona, Richard Seymour played extremely well in Oakland. Underhill wrote a piece (can't locate the article at the moment) breaking down Butler. He pretty much convinced me that Malcolm can be very good anywhere.

I'd love to have him.

st thomas 04-19-2017 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 745066)
WHO U CALLING A HACK, JACK no one is supposed to know the trade options like u.:greendevil::)
honestly lee missed your post my prop to u brother:jester:

st thomas 04-19-2017 08:39 AM
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i will trust my fellow who dats on the evaluation on butler , i never really followed the jazz on him after the pick in the superbowl. when he made the play was'nt he a back-up at that time then got thrust in the mix after that . looking at 6 picks in the nfl total? i know hes young and bellicheck wants to dump him to us, why. jus wonderin

The Dude 04-19-2017 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 745110)
i will trust my fellow who dats on the evaluation on butler , i never really followed the jazz on him after the pick in the superbowl. when he made the play was'nt he a back-up at that time then got thrust in the mix after that . looking at 6 picks in the nfl total? i know hes young and bellicheck wants to dump him to us, why. jus wonderin
One play wonder? He did make the pro bowl prior to that. Maybe he breaks up a ton of plays.0

The Dude 04-19-2017 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 745089)
Do you not get it yet? You have had the whole thing explained several times. Nothing could be done until Butler was under contract so he could NEVER be part of the Cooks deal. You CANNOT trade a player not under contract.

Do you have a clue how it works at all?

:confused:
No I get it. They could have signed him for the sole reason of trading. him at the time. Teams do it all the time jackass. They could have hashed it out before FA even began.

Also, the analysts were saying Sherman could cost less, like a second . Yes he's older but he would def be shut down for a couple of years. If we are in win now mode I say go that route.

lee909 04-19-2017 09:01 AM
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QBs throwing directly at Malcolm Butler went 44-84 for 52.4%, 655 yards, 4 TD, 4 INT, 7.8 YPA, 74.3 passer rating


From a Pats fan
Actually Butler was on Brandon Marshall for quite a bit of the first game this season, as well as Quincy Enunwa and it was by far his worst game this season--only game over 100 yards given up and 2 touchdowns, one each to Marshall and Enunwa. Which lends some credence to his struggles with larger receivers.

If that game is taken out he allowed (7 receptions / 119yards 2 TDs) opponent passer rating drops to 58.

He did redeem himself in the second Jets game with no catches allowed, 2 INTs and fumble recovery. While he moved around, he was on Marshall a bit





Problem is the NFC South is full of Giant receivers. So Breaux will be following Jones,Benjamin amd Evans around while Butler follows Gabriel and Jacksonhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...aab9766b36.jpg

Seer1 04-19-2017 09:03 AM
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I don't know that it would hurt to have a lucky player on our side...

AsylumGuido 04-19-2017 10:22 AM
Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday!
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 745114)
No I get it. They could have signed him for the sole reason of trading. him at the time. Teams do it all the time jackass. They could have hashed it out before FA even began.

Also, the analysts were saying Sherman could cost less, like a second . Yes he's older but he would def be shut down for a couple of years. If we are in win now mode I say go that route.
No, you still don't get it. The Patriots had no say in the matter. They had a tender on Butler. Butler had not signed the tender, so he wasn't under contract. The Patriots couldn't just "sign him for the sole reason of trading him at the time." The Patriots couldn't do squat until Butler decided to sign the tender, which he just did weeks later.

:bang:

CheramieIII 04-19-2017 11:00 AM
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We should get Butler and if so won't draft a CB 1st but the best available probably round 2 pick. DE and future QB picks 11 and 32.

ScottF 04-19-2017 11:14 AM
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The fact that he signed the tender yesterday might signal that he is getting moved very soon. No one believes he is going to play for $4 million, but at least the chicken-little-theorists who thought we'd lose the number 11 can relax 8-)


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