Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday!

brees84 · 03-14-2017, 01:27 PM

Butler is legit. Great corner in his prime. If this deal goes through then we will probably overpay. (draft picks and big contract) But I can't say he is system guy and just an average corner... (different game tape than some other BB products)

Rugby Saint II · 03-14-2017, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I use to have no faith in our drafting but Ireland has helped me with that more than one could know. It's a great D draft and I really hated giving NE that 4th in the Cooks trade to be honest solely because of depth. I'm not in favor of having to give high picks when they can be used to build on.

True DAT!

AsylumGuido · 03-14-2017, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

You might be the only person on earth that thinks those two are safe. 3 7-9 seasons in a row with Brees as qb.

Who is going to fire them? Both Benson and Gayle love them. They are like family. I have pointed this out many times before, the relationship between the owner of the Saints, Loomis and Payton is unique to the NFL.

AsylumGuido · 03-14-2017, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

I heard they were going to ask Armstead to convert his money to a signing bonus i guess this is why perhaps. Im fine with it as long as we don't go over 10-11 mil a year and only give up a second. There's a reason the saints are scheduled first it's not a coincidence.

If you are talking about his $5 million roster bonus then the Saints don't have to ask Armstead for anything. It's not up to him. The team has the right to convert roster bonuses signing bonuses anytime they want without any input from the player. The reason being the player gets the same check either way. It is how the money is accounted for on the books that makes the difference. There is around $14 million in roster bonuses that can be converted at this time.

spkb25 · 03-14-2017, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Who is going to fire them? Both Benson and Gayle love them. They are like family. I have pointed this out many times before, the relationship between the owner of the Saints, Loomis and Payton is unique to the NFL.

More conjecture and rhetoric. 7-9 again and he is as good as gone. He was forced to fire staff

spkb25 · 03-14-2017, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

You might be the only person on earth that thinks those two are safe. 3 7-9 seasons in a row with Brees as qb.

he is and he talks about things he has absolutely no privilege of knowing. It seriously kind of makes me laugh because I cannot tell if he does it to annoy other members or if he sincerely fancies himself "on the inside". There are people who make themselves believe they're somehow associated with people they're not. LMMFAO. Either way it is pretty comical

spkb25 · 03-14-2017, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I couldn't agree more. Payton is selling his soul trying to put together a D for his boy Allen(which I have no faith whatsoever in) to run. It amazes me how long and many years that fielding a dreadful D has caused us to stink it up and he has done little to nothing til now. I think Paytons fate is going to depend totally on how his boys Allens D performs and if it fails I hope they fire Payton and Allen.

dude we sold our souls previously to get a better d in here. Look how many bad contracts bro

spkb25 · 03-14-2017, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Remember we're playing with New England. It means they are gonna **** us if things aren't done right. They always get the upper hand. A second round pick. Please don't go higher than that. Just the second round pick. And don't sign this guy for more than 12 million a year.

didn't he turn down 14?

blackangold · 03-14-2017, 02:30 PM

They just don't seem to get it...
We should be spending money on guys in the front 7. Always over paying for skilled players. Would like to see what we could do with a pass rush...

spkb25 · 03-14-2017, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

They just don't seem to get it...
We should be spending money on guys in the front 7. Always over paying for skilled players. Would like to see what we could do with a pass rush...

dominating both lines has always been a fine way to win

03-14-2017, 01:27 PM	#41
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03-14-2017, 01:42 PM	#42
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by halloween 65 I use to have no faith in our drafting but Ireland has helped me with that more than one could know. It's a great D draft and I really hated giving NE that 4th in the Cooks trade to be honest solely because of depth. I'm not in favor of having to give high picks when they can be used to build on. True DAT!

03-14-2017, 01:59 PM	#43
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,677	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by voodooido You might be the only person on earth that thinks those two are safe. 3 7-9 seasons in a row with Brees as qb. Who is going to fire them? Both Benson and Gayle love them. They are like family. I have pointed this out many times before, the relationship between the owner of the Saints, Loomis and Payton is unique to the NFL.

03-14-2017, 02:07 PM	#44
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,677	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 I heard they were going to ask Armstead to convert his money to a signing bonus i guess this is why perhaps. Im fine with it as long as we don't go over 10-11 mil a year and only give up a second. There's a reason the saints are scheduled first it's not a coincidence. If you are talking about his $5 million roster bonus then the Saints don't have to ask Armstead for anything. It's not up to him. The team has the right to convert roster bonuses signing bonuses anytime they want without any input from the player. The reason being the player gets the same check either way. It is how the money is accounted for on the books that makes the difference. There is around $14 million in roster bonuses that can be converted at this time.

03-14-2017, 02:18 PM	#45
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Who is going to fire them? Both Benson and Gayle love them. They are like family. I have pointed this out many times before, the relationship between the owner of the Saints, Loomis and Payton is unique to the NFL. More conjecture and rhetoric. 7-9 again and he is as good as gone. He was forced to fire staff

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03-14-2017, 02:20 PM	#46
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by voodooido You might be the only person on earth that thinks those two are safe. 3 7-9 seasons in a row with Brees as qb. he is and he talks about things he has absolutely no privilege of knowing. It seriously kind of makes me laugh because I cannot tell if he does it to annoy other members or if he sincerely fancies himself "on the inside". There are people who make themselves believe they're somehow associated with people they're not. LMMFAO. Either way it is pretty comical

03-14-2017, 02:22 PM	#47
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by halloween 65 I couldn't agree more. Payton is selling his soul trying to put together a D for his boy Allen(which I have no faith whatsoever in) to run. It amazes me how long and many years that fielding a dreadful D has caused us to stink it up and he has done little to nothing til now. I think Paytons fate is going to depend totally on how his boys Allens D performs and if it fails I hope they fire Payton and Allen. dude we sold our souls previously to get a better d in here. Look how many bad contracts bro

03-14-2017, 02:25 PM	#48
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by jnormand Remember we're playing with New England. It means they are gonna **** us if things aren't done right. They always get the upper hand. A second round pick. Please don't go higher than that. Just the second round pick. And don't sign this guy for more than 12 million a year. didn't he turn down 14?

03-14-2017, 02:30 PM	#49
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! They just don't seem to get it... We should be spending money on guys in the front 7. Always over paying for skilled players. Would like to see what we could do with a pass rush... neugey likes this.

03-14-2017, 02:53 PM	#50
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by blackangold They just don't seem to get it... We should be spending money on guys in the front 7. Always over paying for skilled players. Would like to see what we could do with a pass rush... dominating both lines has always been a fine way to win

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