Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday!

burningmetal · 03-14-2017, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The Saints are talking about giving up a 1st for Butler.

I know. I just wrote an essay, basically, on why I don't like that.

And it isn't just talk. If the Saints actually want Butler, they have no choice. The Patriots are not going to match any offer we make, and we all know it. That means we give up our #11, automatically.

AsylumGuido · 03-14-2017, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I know. I just wrote an essay, basically, on why I don't like that.

And it isn't just talk. If the Saints actually want Butler, they have no choice. The Patriots are not going to match any offer we make, and we all know it. That means we give up our #11, automatically.

Not if he signs the tender and then they trade him. The Saints can then replace that tender with an agreed upon long-term deal. A 1st rounder doesn't come into play at all.

ScottF · 03-14-2017, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

That means we give up our #11, automatically.

it doesn't, because that's not how it works. Look at Lee's post.
We get a deal with him in principle, and then call NE and work the trade (That second part is probably already done). He signs the 3.9 tender with them, gets traded to us, and then signs his new deal.
Zero percent chance we are giving up #11 for him in any scenario

Rsanders24 · 03-14-2017, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Man, a lot of people really have a lot of faith in our drafting skills.
I'd much rather have a 27 year old starter than another Cie Grant Jonathan Sullivan Usama Young Sedric Ellis and 5 different CB's

Jonathan Vilma for a second was one of our best deals ever

The difference was Vilma was a beast in college and considered the best 4-3 MLB in the draft which is why he went 12th overall (I think). The Jets tried to make him a ILB in a 3-4 which was a disaster. This one doesn't have the same feeling and it's a high risk. If we are going to play a lot of zone schemes then maybe but man to man in our division has me worried.

|Mitch| · 03-14-2017, 05:28 PM

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|Mitch| · 03-14-2017, 05:33 PM

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rezburna · 03-14-2017, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Malcolm Butler || Ballin || New England Patriots Highlights ᴴᴰ - YouTube

He had coverge on Odell Beckham, Antonio Brown, T.Y. Hilton, and Emmanuel Sanders in those highlights.

saintsfan1976 · 03-14-2017, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

He had coverge on Odell Beckham, Antonio Brown, T.Y. Hilton, and Emmanuel Sanders in those highlights.

Damn. He can locate balls better than Jenna Jamison

Cruize · 03-14-2017, 01:20 PM

Just say no. The price is WAY too high. He's a good player. He's NOT a great player. BB and his staff get the MOST out of they're players. I wouldn't sign him to the money, let alone the draft picks.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,676	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by burningmetal I know. I just wrote an essay, basically, on why I don't like that. And it isn't just talk. If the Saints actually want Butler, they have no choice. The Patriots are not going to match any offer we make, and we all know it. That means we give up our #11, automatically. Not if he signs the tender and then they trade him. The Saints can then replace that tender with an agreed upon long-term deal. A 1st rounder doesn't come into play at all.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by burningmetal That means we give up our #11, automatically. it doesn't, because that's not how it works. Look at Lee's post. We get a deal with him in principle, and then call NE and work the trade (That second part is probably already done). He signs the 3.9 tender with them, gets traded to us, and then signs his new deal. Zero percent chance we are giving up #11 for him in any scenario AsylumGuido and ChrisXVI like this.

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Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,493	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by ScottF Man, a lot of people really have a lot of faith in our drafting skills. I'd much rather have a 27 year old starter than another Cie Grant Jonathan Sullivan Usama Young Sedric Ellis and 5 different CB's Jonathan Vilma for a second was one of our best deals ever The difference was Vilma was a beast in college and considered the best 4-3 MLB in the draft which is why he went 12th overall (I think). The Jets tried to make him a ILB in a 3-4 which was a disaster. This one doesn't have the same feeling and it's a high risk. If we are going to play a lot of zone schemes then maybe but man to man in our division has me worried.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,110	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Malcolm Butler \|\| Ballin \|\| New England Patriots Highlights ᴴᴰ - YouTube He had coverge on Odell Beckham, Antonio Brown, T.Y. Hilton, and Emmanuel Sanders in those highlights.

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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by rezburna The Saints are talking about giving up a 1st for Butler. I know. I just wrote an essay, basically, on why I don't like that. And it isn't just talk. If the Saints actually want Butler, they have no choice. The Patriots are not going to match any offer we make, and we all know it. That means we give up our #11, automatically.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,037 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by rezburna He had coverge on Odell Beckham, Antonio Brown, T.Y. Hilton, and Emmanuel Sanders in those highlights. Damn. He can locate balls better than Jenna Jamison neugey and ChrisXVI like this.

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