Saints Pick Christian McCaffrey RB at #11

|Mitch| · 03-28-2017, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

"Given how Mark Ingram disappointed last season..."

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hagan714 · 03-29-2017, 12:22 AM

not a huge Mark Ingram fan really. he has his moments and he has gotten better in the past few years. so i really never bash him. i always look for a complementary back to help him our, like Christian.

jnormand · 03-29-2017, 01:47 AM

I love Ingram. I'm not an Alabama homer or an LSU homer. I just like when he runs angry. He had a great year on a pass first team. MI is the real deal.

I think he's gonna really run well this year. I'm on board with a McCaffrey pick. But I love to watch Mark run.

Beastmode · 03-29-2017, 06:01 AM

Ingram is alright. Decent pick minus turf toe, out running his blockers half the time and horrible vision.

I'm thinking a very solid no though on offense in RND 1. We didn't get rid of a 2X 1,000 yard WR to get an unproven scatback.

foreverfan · 03-29-2017, 09:47 AM

Ingram is solid. The Saints would be more solid with McCaffrey and Ingram.

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foreverfan · 03-29-2017, 09:51 AM

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Rsanders24 · 03-29-2017, 11:24 AM

I would not be happy if we made that pick in the 1st round. We traded our most explosive player on offense to get better on defense. That is what we need to do....focus on defense. After last year we saw that you cannot have enough quality depth on that side of the ball.

CM will probably be a good back but I'm concerned about his longevity at this level after how much Stanford used him. Also, if he's not an every down back then thats too high for him. We will use him in sub-packages and face it....we are not going to all of a sudden become a run heavy offense. I just don't think we will get the return we need at that pick. We are good at finding offensive talent in later picks. I still believe we need to go defense in the first round.

Beastmode · 03-29-2017, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

I would not be happy if we made that pick in the 1st round. We traded our most explosive player on offense to get better on defense. That is what we need to do....focus on defense. After last year we saw that you cannot have enough quality depth on that side of the ball.

CM will probably be a good back but I'm concerned about his longevity at this level after how much Stanford used him. Also, if he's not an every down back then thats too high for him. We will use him in sub-packages and face it....we are not going to all of a sudden become a run heavy offense. I just don't think we will get the return we need at that pick. We are good at finding offensive talent in later picks. I still believe we need to go defense in the first round.

And that is what Loomis clearly stated. We are going defense, probably the first 3 picks. Unless of course something insane happens which Loomis also stated that will also likely happen. I could see us trading up to get the best defender we can with the 11 and 32 then maybe offense right after it.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 03-29-2017, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

I would not be happy if we made that pick in the 1st round. We traded our most explosive player on offense to get better on defense. That is what we need to do....focus on defense. After last year we saw that you cannot have enough quality depth on that side of the ball.

I just don't see these two events being connected to one another. With Cooks, there was an upcoming long term big money investment coming starting with the $750k roster bonus due at the beginning of March. Why pour money into a guy that you don't plan to keep?

Getting better on defense is a given, but I don't believe the motivation for trading Cooks was specifically to do that IMO.

CM will probably be a good back but I'm concerned about his longevity at this level after how much Stanford used him. Also, if he's not an every down back then thats too high for him. We will use him in sub-packages and face it....we are not going to all of a sudden become a run heavy offense. I just don't think we will get the return we need at that pick. We are good at finding offensive talent in later picks. I still believe we need to go defense in the first round.

I agree. The offense/defense talent imbalance is still tilted. The defense needs more, and better, people to catch up.

SFIAH

foreverfan · 03-29-2017, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

The offense/defense talent imbalance is still tilted.

Take Drew Brees out and you really think that is true?

03-29-2017, 12:22 AM	#42
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints Pick Christian McCaffrey RB at #11 not a huge Mark Ingram fan really. he has his moments and he has gotten better in the past few years. so i really never bash him. i always look for a complementary back to help him our, like Christian.

03-29-2017, 01:47 AM	#43
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Re: Saints Pick Christian McCaffrey RB at #11 I love Ingram. I'm not an Alabama homer or an LSU homer. I just like when he runs angry. He had a great year on a pass first team. MI is the real deal. I think he's gonna really run well this year. I'm on board with a McCaffrey pick. But I love to watch Mark run.

03-29-2017, 06:01 AM	#44
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints Pick Christian McCaffrey RB at #11 Ingram is alright. Decent pick minus turf toe, out running his blockers half the time and horrible vision. I'm thinking a very solid no though on offense in RND 1. We didn't get rid of a 2X 1,000 yard WR to get an unproven scatback. aquaboogie likes this.
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03-29-2017, 11:24 AM	#47
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Saints Pick Christian McCaffrey RB at #11 I would not be happy if we made that pick in the 1st round. We traded our most explosive player on offense to get better on defense. That is what we need to do....focus on defense. After last year we saw that you cannot have enough quality depth on that side of the ball. CM will probably be a good back but I'm concerned about his longevity at this level after how much Stanford used him. Also, if he's not an every down back then thats too high for him. We will use him in sub-packages and face it....we are not going to all of a sudden become a run heavy offense. I just don't think we will get the return we need at that pick. We are good at finding offensive talent in later picks. I still believe we need to go defense in the first round. aquaboogie likes this.

03-29-2017, 12:34 PM	#48
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints Pick Christian McCaffrey RB at #11 Originally Posted by Rsanders24 I would not be happy if we made that pick in the 1st round. We traded our most explosive player on offense to get better on defense. That is what we need to do....focus on defense. After last year we saw that you cannot have enough quality depth on that side of the ball. CM will probably be a good back but I'm concerned about his longevity at this level after how much Stanford used him. Also, if he's not an every down back then thats too high for him. We will use him in sub-packages and face it....we are not going to all of a sudden become a run heavy offense. I just don't think we will get the return we need at that pick. We are good at finding offensive talent in later picks. I still believe we need to go defense in the first round. And that is what Loomis clearly stated. We are going defense, probably the first 3 picks. Unless of course something insane happens which Loomis also stated that will also likely happen. I could see us trading up to get the best defender we can with the 11 and 32 then maybe offense right after it.
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03-29-2017, 02:32 PM	#49
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Saints Pick Christian McCaffrey RB at #11 Originally Posted by Rsanders24 I would not be happy if we made that pick in the 1st round. We traded our most explosive player on offense to get better on defense. That is what we need to do....focus on defense. After last year we saw that you cannot have enough quality depth on that side of the ball. I just don't see these two events being connected to one another. With Cooks, there was an upcoming long term big money investment coming starting with the $750k roster bonus due at the beginning of March. Why pour money into a guy that you don't plan to keep? Getting better on defense is a given, but I don't believe the motivation for trading Cooks was specifically to do that IMO. CM will probably be a good back but I'm concerned about his longevity at this level after how much Stanford used him. Also, if he's not an every down back then thats too high for him. We will use him in sub-packages and face it....we are not going to all of a sudden become a run heavy offense. I just don't think we will get the return we need at that pick. We are good at finding offensive talent in later picks. I still believe we need to go defense in the first round. I agree. The offense/defense talent imbalance is still tilted. The defense needs more, and better, people to catch up. SFIAH

03-29-2017, 03:02 PM	#50
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints Pick Christian McCaffrey RB at #11 Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL The offense/defense talent imbalance is still tilted. Take Drew Brees out and you really think that is true?

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