Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 746035)

He beat his kids and paid the price. Time to go back to work full-time and get hit a lot harder.

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 746040)

Well I was spanked, too, and it didn't make me abusive or get beat up. You're telling people, who got spanked as kids, how it would affect them when they just told you how it positively affected them. Think about that.

Do you have kids? If you don't, then you really don't know of what you speak. There is a reason that kids these days are spoiled, and think they know everything. They have a false sense of superiority and entitlement, because their parents don't have the guts to tell them when they are doing the wrong thing. And THAT is what leads to abusive behavior, as much as anything.

Of course there is such a thing as going overboard with discipline. If someone can confirm that this wasn't an isolated incident with Peterson, then I'll call him out on it. But anything can happen in a one time deal. Kids are precious, and can be really sweet, but they can also drive you crazy at any given moment. You have to do the best to manage your emotions in that situation. I can also speak from experience that I don't always handle it the right way. I certainly don't beat up my child, but I have definitely gone overboard in the heat of the moment.

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 746156)

You're right, but no where in what you said does explaining them, teaching them mean you should beat your kids. If you can't beat your wife why on earth would you think it okay to beat your small babies?

Guide them, teach them, show them how to handle the adversity. That is the role of a parent.

Kids are resilient and just because they can handle a lot and still turn out okay doesn't mean there is not a better way.

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 746154)

Can you please provide why you Needed to hit a child?

Why can't you hit your wife?

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 748358)

Look at all the people in trailer parks, living in poverty, living as low level socialization, not involved in things, etc.....almost all of those types were spanked and spanked their kids. You can still discipline a kid when he misbehaves without spanking. But also, you should teach kids to be good and kind to other people while also teaching them toughness by getting them involved in stuff like martial arts and sports.

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 748369)

Not even close to the same concept.

Your argument would be more intelligent if it didn't reach for false moral equivalence.

Disciplining your child physically leads to the individual being more content and successful later in life. Smacked children more successful later in life, study finds - Telegraph

Also note, that beating your child and physically disciplining them is not the same, child abuse is real but it's important to understand severity and intent.

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 748375)

Completely illogical.

Use long term studies to assure your position. Your opinion of people means nothing. In fact, the long term studies show the exact opposite, see my previous post, or actually do research.

Many on this board should refrain from using their personal experiences as evidence, they mean nothing. Scientific studies have been conducted on this subject for years and while it shows that it can cause more anxious children while in adolescence the kids grow into successful adults at a much higher rate than the alternative. Those are facts, your opinion doesn't matter.

Again, I'll say this before the triggered SJW jumps in... Physical discipline can go too far and that's not acceptable.