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That is assuming that the defense is poor. Far too many changes to make that assumption.

Thirty3

Hightower showed toughness. Peterson shows TOUGHNESS. Hightower pushed Ingraham. Peterson MAY overtake him. Mark has looked good at times, better when he is pushed. Ready to watch two hosses!

Seer1

Sooner or later we're gonna get real lucky with these post injury signings. I'm hopin' for sooner on this one.

OldMaid

I agree with what jeanpierre on pg. 2 posted. Reread jeanpierre's posts.

I hope jeanpierre is right .

Personally, sorry everyone, but I am not happy with AP being a Saint. There was NO ONE for far less money and good, young, developing or developed and needing a spot out there than APeterson!!
AP-old weight, costly old weight to me.
Personally and professionally, I do not like APeterson.

pherein

On the fence about this. On one side I was a huge fan of AP. Havent seen a RB that gifted sence Tony Dorcett. On the other side AP is a convicted child abuser and I thought he should be kicked out of the NFL because he crossed the line.
Not trying to be a downer because you guys know how much I follow RB's.
Not trying to create a problem either, just putting it out there.
Love his talent and appreciate his freakish running ability, but also know theres a pretty messed up person inside. I dont know what to think right now, never thought we would sign him because I was thinking Brees would not be happy working with a guy that had done what he did.

On another note AP losing a step at 32 just makes him still a top 5 RB in the NFL, he was dominate before. He still has the move skils.

Saints proved that pigs could fly in 2009.
Now its time for another miracle SuperBowl and go where no pig has gone before.

ChrisXVI

Well said Pherein. I agree 100%. I'm excited because he's one of the greatest to ever play the game. On the other hand, we're talking about a guy who would shove leaves in his kids mouth and do this:

Danno

Keep in mind that this was a 4 year old child.

F*** Adrian Beaterson.

I hope that low life scum piece of s*** doesn't make it through training camp.

burningmetal

Nobody has to assume anything about the defense in order to validate what hagan said. It is a fact that the best way to help a poor defense is to keep them off the field as long as possible, as he said.

Now, if our defense is good, or even great, then that's awesome. You still want to keep them off the field as much as possible. It goes without saying that if you're scoring a lot of points AND controlling clock, it's pretty much impossible for anyone to beat you.

frydaddy

This is going to ruffle feathers, but..f*** it.

People like to vilify him over the incident with his son. And while I agree that the images are not pleasant, I am unwilling to say that he set out with the intention to leave those kinds of marks without having been there myself. I do specifically remember that a text he sent to the child's mother was released and it was him saying something along the lines of "now that I see the marks on him I feel bad about it." Now you may say "well he shouldn't have ever lifted a switch to his child in the first place." To that I would say you're entitled to your opinion, but some people, myself included, believe in corporal punishment. It was used on me and my 4 siblings, my wife and her 4 siblings, my parents, aunts, uncles, cousins and most of my friends. They're all well adjusted people today. None complaining of being scarred or traumatized by their experience. In fact I believe they would all say, and I would definitely say that I'm glad my parents whipped me. I learned at a young age that trouble was not something I wanted any part of, and that remains with me to this day. And I didn't get whipped a lot because I was smart enough to learn my lesson each time. The only downside to it is that occasionally someone may not take the time to remove themselves from the heat of the situation. By that I mean, a child may make a big time mistake, and the parent could understandably be angry and not give themselves a moment to calm down before disciplining the child. I learned myself that it's best to calm down before doling out punishment, having left some slight bruising on my oldest son's backside once because I did it while I was still mad. I felt bad about it, and it hasn't happened again. Now you may say "but what could a 4 year old possibly do to anger him so much?" As a father of 6...yes, 6... I can tell you firsthand about the kind of destruction and devastation a 4 year old is capable of. My children have destroyed things that made my blood boil, but after learning the lesson with my son, I now remove myself for however long it takes to calm down before coming back to discipline. But it takes making mistakes to learn from them.. and I'm pretty sure he learned from his. Who here amongst us is perfect? Who here hasn't done something they so deeply regret that they just wish they could go back in time and redo the whole thing? We're quick to cast stones at folks whose dirty laundry ends up in public, but if ours got out what would people think of us? I guess what I'm saying is.. none of us really know the man, and it's asinine and hypocritical to say that you know he's a p.o.s. because of one incident. Also, pretty sure not a single one of you would dare say it to his face, so... just stop.

I'm off my soap box now.

Mais forte do que a morte

AllSaints

Sometimes as a parent you don't realize how hard you are spanking your child... it seems to me this was one of those occasions for AP.... we don't really know for sure but I have been there....