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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by spkb25 I don't understand, why are kids allowed to be beat, but any other human that is hit in any fashion is considered assaulted? Why are children the only ones we feel it okay to hit? I ...

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Old 04-26-2017, 07:34 AM   #91
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I don't understand, why are kids allowed to be beat, but any other human that is hit in any fashion is considered assaulted? Why are children the only ones we feel it okay to hit? I don't hit my dog....this seems absolutely silly to me.

Kids are growing up with a different sense of entitlement and lack of respect, I am in education and I see it. It is not because they are beat less, it is because they are placated and never have to learn to deal with adversity. Teach your child that things are not going to go their way sometimes and how to handle that. Doesn't require beating them at all. Just requires you to be strong and not give in. Nothing is harder than watching your child cry and feeling like you hurt their feelings, but there is no greater gift you can give them. Doesn't require beating them. Beatings come when you haven't taught your child correctly from the time they were small and now you can't handle the monster you created so you must go off the deep end and beat them. sick!
A whipping is not a beating. Adrian Peterson might have gone overboard in that particular instance, but whipping, itself, is not a beating. You don't spank a child because they became monsters. Whoever said anything about monster children? You keep your kids from BECOMING monsters by disciplining them. Counting to three, putting kids in "timeout" or wagging your finger and saying "shame, shame" accomplishes nothing. You have to drive the point home early and often with kids so that by the time they are preteens, they have learned that you don't get your way by disrespecting people.

Nowadays, kids are told they are delicate little snowflakes, well into their teens, and you can't do anything without them crying foul.
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A whipping is not a beating. Adrian Peterson might have gone overboard in that particular instance, but whipping, itself, is not a beating. You don't spank a child because they became monsters. Whoever said anything about monster children? You keep your kids from BECOMING monsters by disciplining them. Counting to three, putting kids in "timeout" or wagging your finger and saying "shame, shame" accomplishes nothing. You have to drive the point home early and often with kids so that by the time they are preteens, they have learned that you don't get your way by disrespecting people.

Nowadays, kids are told they are delicate little snowflakes, well into their teens, and you can't do anything without them crying foul.
It depends on the kid. I have a 9 year old almost 10 and I have yet to have put a hand on him. If you teach your kids right and wrong and take the time to talk to them it goes a lot better I find. Spankings are usually for parents who can't control there frustrations and anger and need to take it out on something or someone and that is usually the kid.

Not saying that there is a kid out there that could use some tough love like that but you have to be careful.

I also feel we put these NFL players on such a high pedestal and expect them to be perfect in every way and that is just wrong. You are entittled to make mistakes and you entittled to learn from them. Holding something that is and can be corrected and learned behavior to stop someone from earning a living is wrong as well.
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Old 04-26-2017, 07:59 AM   #93
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This is old news IMO and has been hash over in MPLS. If MPLS can move on NO should be able to do the same
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:30 AM   #94
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Has he done it since? If so, chop him up and put him on a school lunch menu -gotta be healthier than some of that stuff I've seen kids carry off the line. If not then he's figured it out. Give him the ball and see what he can do with it. What's done is done, redemption is everyone's right.
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:31 AM   #95
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It depends on the kid. I have a 9 year old almost 10 and I have yet to have put a hand on him. If you teach your kids right and wrong and take the time to talk to them it goes a lot better I find. Spankings are usually for parents who can't control there frustrations and anger and need to take it out on something or someone and that is usually the kid.

Not saying that there is a kid out there that could use some tough love like that but you have to be careful.

I also feel we put these NFL players on such a high pedestal and expect them to be perfect in every way and that is just wrong. You are entittled to make mistakes and you entittled to learn from them. Holding something that is and can be corrected and learned behavior to stop someone from earning a living is wrong as well.
Everyone is entitled to their own way of discipline. That doesn't mean they have the right to tell another person what's right or wrong, unless it's something egregious. Talking only goes so far with a lot of kids. Without any real threat of consequence, how does talking to them teach them anything? In my opinion, there is a time for talking, and a time for punishment. I know the word punishment is hard for this current society to handle, because they automatically think in terms of abuse, but punishment, in and of itself, is anything that represents a consequence related to an action. Kids have to feel a healthy amount of fear that if they don't act right, they will either have something taken away, or be spanked, grounded, something. Just as long as it gets the message across.

It's how I was raised, and what problems I have are unrelated to any of that. I learned respect, courtesy, and I didn't fear my parents in any way other than the healthy kind of fear I spoke of, where I knew if I disobeyed them, I would get the belt, or have some privilege taken away for an indefinite period of time.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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He was convicted. No man should beat children its that simple, and that bothers me. Understand the the post but its not acceptable and he should have been kick out of the NFL for it. Im not happy with AP and ..Im sure his kids have mental prolems for his lack of maturity

love the runner but hes a d@ck for what he did

so we forget the D@ck and his kids living threw all those nightmare years because he want a division win ?
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Old 04-26-2017, 09:29 AM   #97
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"I truly regret this incident," Peterson said outside the courthouse. "I stand here and take full responsibility for my actions. I love my son more than any one of you could even imagine. I am looking forward to and I am anxious to continue my relationship with my child.

"I am just glad this is over. I can put this behind me and me and my family can begin to move forward."

Peterson, 29, had stood accused of injuring his 4-year-old son in May after disciplining him with a tree branch or "switch." Peterson said the injuries were unintentional and that he was imposing the same kind of discipline that had been imposed on him as a boy growing up in Texas.
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Imagine AP slapping his son in the face with a belt. That's worse.
I can imagine a lot of things... but still... are we living in Minority Report times now?
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Well said Pherein. I agree 100%. I'm excited because he's one of the greatest to ever play the game. On the other hand, we're talking about a guy who would shove leaves in his kids mouth and do this:

I had soap and pepper on my tongue if I sassed and was whooped in school with a paddle and at home with a big crawfish paddle growing up. Times have changed for sure. I've never had to drink castor oil but all of those cartoons growing up made it look horrible.
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I had soap and pepper on my tongue if I sassed and was whooped in school with a paddle and at home with a big crawfish paddle growing up. Times have changed for sure. I've never had to drink castor oil but all of those cartoons growing up made it look horrible.
Seriously, IT IS! Fifty years later I can still remember that taste. You know that **** comes from the same seed that sarin gas is made of, right?
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